PCT timeline according to esters
With so many starting cycles these days without aas researching & knowledge, we often see the same questions over & over. One question we see all too often is, " I'm finishing my cycle & need help with pct?" I believe before any cycle is started we should research, research & research some more until we are confident of the risk & reward & we have an understanding of the compounds. Not only should our cycle be planned meticulously, our PCT should as well & all Ai's, Caber if running a 19 nor & all of our PCT should be on hand before the first pin. It's a good practice to always have extra incase circumstances arise also. Here's a short list of when to start PCT according to what you're cycling. Hopefully this will help answer some questions, & it may help some realize that beginning PCT various. Also note that these starts times are just a guide where to start, some may need to change according to the doses of compounds & the fact that bodies do react differently.
Short Esters:
Test Prop
Tren Ace
NPP
All short ester cycles PCT can start 3 days after last pin. Short Esters are also used many times as a taper from a long ester cycle so PCT can be started sooner.
Long Esters:
Deca
EQ
PCT can start 21 days after last injection. It's also common to drop the Deca or Eq a week or two early to allow it to clear the system the same time as the Test
Sust
PCT can start 18-21 days after last injection
Test Cyp
Test E
PCT can start 14 days after last injection
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On top of these timeframes (which are good guides), I think it's important to keep dosage in mind.
Eg. If someone's on a gram a week of cyp, it's gonna take longer than someone taking 4-600mgs to get to a "normal" range where it's safe to start pct.
use your roid calcs
and start when levels are under 11-12. (Maybe even 10 if it's a long long ester like decaonate and longer)
Hopefully you've planned your cycle so Test doesn't crash under that number before another compound does or it's gonna be a rough week or two.
Yes sir excellent point bro!!
RustyhookerCyp enth 2 weeks is cool.
Deca, eq esters 21 min imo. I'll cut a test eq run at 16 and short esters/orals 4 weeks. Or adjust so im still getting 3-4 weeks til pct
https://roidcalc.powerbody.ru/?langid=8
I will edit it a little.... thanks for the calculator brother!!
So I posted the same thing a couple of days ago and was told that decca stays in your system for 8wks.
I've always followed the 3wks or 4wks with those types of long esters as you say above.
Have you ever heard anything like this?
Smartest move I made when preparing my 1st cycle was having aromasin and armidex on hand. I initially planned on running the aromasin and did so for several weeks but felt horrible. Long story short after bloodwork and conversations on eroids I switched to arimidex and the 2nd have of that cycle was amazing. If I didnt have it on hand I would have had to.order and wait who knows how long. So if anyone reading this is prepping to run their 1st cycle, unless you know how your body reacts to these compounds dont be a cheap fuck. Buy em both because you never know!
Very good point JG! That's a nice piece of info for any newb, without the heart ache of learning the hard way!
Excellent point my friend!!!
Totally agree with haveing extra pct and ai on hand myself i like to have double everything when it comes to pct and ai one can never have enough pct !!!
Oh yes, that's the ticket mate!
"Double everything" is the perfect policy when it comes to pct products and AI's in general.
Protection is never something you want to fuck around with let alone learn "the hard way".
Yup ill be the first to admit i was one of those dumbasses before i came to eroids i got a whole bunch of gear and a no pct or ai almost got me a pair of double A cups and the first cycle i did the crash at the end was horrible lesson learned thanks to the eroids community i got set straight!!
I would have to disagree with you there mate.
The classic sust combination would include test deca which is a super long ester so you wouldn't start PCT as early as 18 days.
Also test e and c are 1 molecule apart so I'm told which would mean you start PCT at the same time.. 14 days.
Exactly, I believe cyps half life is like a day longer than enth, so maybe like 15-16 if you wanna get anal about it. But 14 wouldn't make much a diff if dosage on cycle is "normal"/moderate. As I said above though, roid/ester calcs are the only way to get a real accurate-ish reading of when is going to be the right time to start for the particular dosage one is using.
So would you say Sust should be in the 21 day timeframe? I was taught 18-21 days. Also with the Cyp, I was always taught 14-18 days. What would be the safest way to list it?