pct and during test e 500mg wk cycle,wanting input.
I have been updating my info on running a cycle it has been a few yearsand i am learning and seeing alot of conflicting pct and A.I. heres a post i read that i havent seen any where else any ideas eroid members?Arimidex
This is a very potent drug that prevents the body from converting testosterone into estrogen. The drawback is that is very expensive. The minimum effective dosage is around between a quarter and a half of a milligram/day. This drug does not need to be combined with any other during the cycle; however I recommend you begin using arimidex two weeks prior to commencing your cycle so that the drug can effectively eliminate the enzyme that permits conversion of testosterone to estrogen. Clomid is still useful in the post cycle period. For more information on this drug, see the chapter entitled Some Specific Drugs Considered.
Remember, anti-estrogens are not scheduled. It is perfectly legal to import them and there are many online resources that do this with accuracy and reliability. Don't gamble with this aspect of your health and don't start until you have all that you need to cover yourself throughout the whole cycle. There is no excuse for not having plenty of clomid and nolvadex on hand.
This part where it says to start Ameridex 2 weeks before you start cycle?
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AnonHey C, gotta keep it tight and right man. Thanks for the 1 bro.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAnonThis is a good thread bro. I was running a similar cycle and neglected to get all the pertinent info before starting. Hence I have to cut my cycle short and will more than likely lose some significant gains. I was able to get some help from the bro.s here and I'll be back on course shortly.You are definitely doing the right thing here. C and Levelup have laid it out real good for you and you should have no problems.. All the best with your cycle bro.
Hey Bro,Thanks alot for the positive feedback and good wishes,if i may what went wrong on youres?Its cool if you dont want to relieve it ,and thanks again either!!
AnonI shared it all on a thread ( You Need To Be Prepared )in steroid cycles. Take some time and read it. Hope it helps you out bro...
cdaddy7Thanks bigsteele for that witness from your personal experience +1 that and ur great attitude in understanding the big picture
cdaddy7Here's your beginner cycle layout with options....levelup did a fine job....I like to detail ur options....Sry I'm OCD lol
Week 1-12 Test E or Cyp @ 500mg/week split doses(250mg twice a week Monday/Thurs)
Aromasin 12.5mg or Arimidex .25mg Every 3 days and start no later than week 3 and all the way to the day you start your PCT
15 days after your last injection of Test your PCT begins:
Week 1 Nolvadex 40mg and Clomid 100mg a day
Week 2 Nolvadex 40mg and Clomid 100mg a day
Week 3 Nolvadex 20mg and Clomid 50mg a day
Week 4 Nolvadex 20mg and Clomid 50mg a day
so to sum it up mike...
week 1-12 250mg test e 2x/wk
adex .25mg e3d starting week 4
pct starts 14 days after last pin
pct is clomid 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20
protein 2g/lb of body weight
4000+cal/day
cut carbs at 2pm to stay lean
cdaddy7+1 up....levelup...damn fine job with layout
dam i just saw this post,okay start week 4,do i run arimidex thru the 2 weeks in-between test last and pct startweek 14?
jumping around on me, it will be somewhere between 3-4 weeks and is really a bit variable by person. some sides should start to show by then, bloat,acne, sore/tender nips. if you are having trouble with deciding i would recommend spending the little bit of money to get a blood test at week 4 then you know for sure
dam, i ment arimidex every 3 days,and run it even on the 2 weeks after last test pin.all the way till clo,and nolva starts then stop?
yea you are good, running it till you start pct will prevent rebound estro
okay,ty for all the time and knowledge!TY TY TY
anytime bro!
sorry for jumping not sure how to use this right,if you would my question is should i start arimidex week 4 at .25 eod and use thru week 14 when i start clomid and nolva?please and thank you level.
yea but start it every 3 day...its effective so you dont want to just kill your estro. if you get some tenderness or itchyness in your nipples then go eod and if it persists go ed, you will just have to monitor it. you should definitely get bloodwork done around mid cycle to see where your levels are at and after pct to make sure you have recovered. the mid cycle bloods will let you know if you are dosing your ai right and then you can adjust accordingly. if low e2 back your dosage back, if high e2 increase frequency of dosage etc
Post stats.....lets get rolling....
Yes levels right,he looked up my stats,just doing a test e 500week 1st one in like 18 years 5ft 9 170 dont have exact but pretty low bf i am lucky there,but hard to gain,tring to figure what to use with for a correct or get the most out of cycle and keep all that i can after.Any ninput fast48,and is that for jimmy jhonson by chance?
43 5'9 170 no bf listed (had to pull that out of his cycle log), said he hasnt ran a cycle in 18 years, he posted a cycle log about it and i think the details got straightened out there, or at least it appeared so, but hes going for 500mg/wk test e 12 weeks, clomid100/100/50/50 nolve 40/40/20/20 adex .25mg e3d, adjust according to sides pct 2 weeks after last pin
Sorry you had to look that up,wow you are good bro TY.
anytime dude, i knew you were new and knew i had seen them before. post them in your profile, it will be a lot easier for everyone to see and people will be more likely to give you advice
okay Thanks bro,it is a lil hard at 1st getting used to how where etc. on here, agian TY
Awesome! He's gtg then
. Thank you brother!
np! hes golden, just needs to take the advice and run with it
looking back it looks like you, zewi and play advised him of this so now im just being kind of repetitive
Not repetitive......so many names daily its hard to keep up. Glad he's asking and learning!!
cdaddy7Test only cycle is perfect for him then....
hes gtg, says he wants to get back to 195 so only other thing he needs is massive amounts of food
cdaddy7+1 levelup to taking initiative and helping with stats and info
anytime...ill throw the info out there and all you vets have to do is come in and close!
Imagine if all the new folks posted, asked and learned like this op.
well i am tring to get all the info down with out having a i wish i wouldve momment half way thru cycle,and i have a few weeks of just reading you guys post before i got my feet wet i still am learning and typing and asking is showing me that i dont have it down as much as i thought i want it 2nd nature before 1st pin!So TY for all the help and dealing with newbie crap!!!!
Not crap at all. This is being read by anyone worldwide. So your questions are also helping others everywhere. Truth!
cdaddy7This is the layout of AI and PCT...
Arimidex .25mg Every 3 days and start no later than week 3 and all the way to the day you start your PCT
15 days after your last injection of Test your PCT begins:
Week 1 Nolvadex 40mg and Clomid 100mg a day
Week 2 Nolvadex 40mg and Clomid 100mg a day
Week 3 Nolvadex 20mg and Clomid 50mg a day
Week 4 Nolvadex 20mg and Clomid 50mg a day
cdaddy7You need to understand Nolva/Clomid combo in pct and why
Clomid and Nolva actions
Clomiphene works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary. The pituitary sees less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means that the Leydig cells in the testes make more testosterone....That right there is the difference. Doing this helps your testes come alive....Nolvadex stimulates the biosynthesis of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) that in turn initiate both intra-gonadal testosterone production and spermatogenesis as well as systemic testosterone secretion and virilization. The blood flow brings GnRH into the anterior pituitary where endocrine cells synthesize and produce FSH and LH. Nolvadex helps with LH(needed for natural testosterone) and FSH(helps produce sperm) in the pituitary but doesn't block estrogen from the pituitary--it blocks estrogen in your chest with the breast tissue
So is it .25 ED of arimidex for all 12 weeks, then 100\100\50\50 clomid starting week 14 with nolva 40\40\20\20 week 14 ?
your going to want to start about week 3-4 since you are running an enanthate ester...check out how fast has it below, ed starting from the beginning is gonna make your estro crash...e3d to start, eod if sore, ed if still sore. taper you dose back after sides go away
Why is there so much conflicting pct out there i have looked alot and most i see is book info and it does not seem to line up with what peps that use say! Its n crazy!
@levelup,yes i was tring to find out why this is out there do you see any reason why this is posted it is on steroid tips .com?
im not sure, iv read a lot of bs out there. adex is about a 50% reduction in e2 levels per dose and peak effectiveness is around 24 hrs, so if you dose it every other day starting to weeks before cycle your estro will be at zero. say you start somewhere around a level of 50. first dose is at 25, lets say it recovers to 30 by the time your second dose comes so now its down to 15, next dose it recovers to 20 then next dose its chopped in half down to 10. by the end of the two weeks its going to be zero. you will start your test then wont be able to get out of bed to workout
the starting e2 level is completely arbitrary... if anything it is a high estimate unless you are overweight
Simple. Eroids.com is more accurate.
Bro you wouldn't start arimadex two weeks prior to your cycle if you aren't running anything at all. Armies has a relatively short half life of a few days so there is no need to use it weeks before you run test. Also you did not have to use adex every day like the article states most guys can get away with 0.25mg every other day. You could bump it up from there but you wouldn't need anything more than 0.5mg every other day most likely. Arimadex is very strong and it's important to have some accurately dosed adex. As an alternative you could use aromasin. I have used both and I prefer aromasin over adex.
Yes i wont i just read this on steroid tips .com and i was taken back buy it.
No you should NOT start adex two Weeks early. Low estro is more destructive that moderate. Ai starts around week 3 if just a test e cycle at .25 every 3rd day. If there's estro sensitivity then it's .25 eod.. Can go .5eod on heavy estro convervion cycle if needed.
I prefer aromasin as it doesnt have estro rebound like adex and it raises igf..
Proper pct is two Weeks after last test e shot and its both nolva and clomid. Daily dose pet week for four Weeks.
Clomid 100...100...50..50
Nolva 40...40...20...20
New research suggests a modified pct adding in aromasin.
do not start taking two weeks before your cycle! your body needs estrogen...if you start taking it two weeks before it will hit the dumps quick, you have no exo test to convert into estrodial. typical use for timing the start of your ai with a long ester is 3-4 weeks, with a short one could be 1-2 weeks
standard pct clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20. if you are running adex run it up to pct
Sorry level one more so arimdex should start 3rd week of test e 500 week 12 week cycle and all thru till day one of pct .thru the 2 weeks off still take arimdex.
yea you wanna still hold your estro off while test levels diminish to baseline levels