right on brotha. i can definitely relate to being steered wrong. i've been running juice for about a year now under the advice/guidance of a personal friend. until a couple months ago, i had no idea how misguided i really was. a lot of people it seems are too timid to come out and admit they don't have all the knowledge. instead they pretend to know their shit. takes a man to admit his shortcomings and ask for help. +1 for that one
thanks man. I caught alot of flak, some trolling, and in time I was steered towards some great knowledge. I am down in weight and BF since I posted thois markedly even after suffering back to back injuries.
marines Never give up. We dont retreat, we just attack in a different direction.
It takes a lot of HOORAH to post that .... well pretty much you fucked up and you need help, good job reaching out man +1 for stopping and asking for help.
Other members can give you better advice than myself on this topic.
"A combination of both drugs appears to be very synergistic, HCG providing an immediate effect on the testes (shocking them out of inactivity) while the anti-estrogen helps later to block inhibition on the hypothalamus and resume the normal release of gonadotropins from the pituitary. The typical procedure involves giving the Clomid/Nolvadex dose from the start with HCG, but continuing it alone for a few weeks once HCG has been discontinued. This practice should effectively raise testosterone levels, which will hopefully remain stable once Clomid/Nolvadex have been discontinued."
I will look for more info into this. I'm not sure I want to shock my testes... Unless someone does it with me for moral support....
Yea that was my point. I was wondering what a blast off was... We arnt talking the same laungauge somtimes haha. Maybe I should google HCG blastoff for fun!
Guy has "I am a fuckign HCG salesman" in his name. I would not trust anything he says.He maybe 100% correct but I would not care.Look for advice on HCG some where else.
Here's my input bro...Stop the cycle...at this point if you go further it looks like it's goin to be worse...You have the wrong cycle rolling off the bat and you have a nice little localized infection that can turn into something worse...You need to stop and get a PCT ASAP and start bc you levels are probably jacked up at this point but not too bad...I can tell you that this is a mission you need to abort and regroup at a later date..you are at the perfect site to learn and make your next cycle the best
I'm not sure if I should decide my future off a Tarot read even after all the expert advice here. The tarot reading was so on point it brought me to tears.
I also had a dream last night that My math teacher never taught me how to properly do the formulas. When I confronted him the whole class walked out
Well I attempeted to sterilize my gear and I pinned .5 to my thigh the other night. Its been 36 hours. Woke up really sore today, not so much yesterday.(I did ride my bike hardish yesterday, even if for short duration.And I had done pd0x the day before. No lump... Was I really shooting into my fatty ass?
My last card in my tarot card is what I had against me. It was the Hermit. A time to be alone, or it can mean a time not to make hasty choices.
So is it hasty to discontinue and PCT in fear that I have gone to far down the wrong road, Or is it hasty to decide that I want to continue with test prop, then have all my PCT settup...
I know the majority of comments say to scrap and start over , and that weighs heavy on me.If the choice was a clear cut easy one I would not need further assistance..
I did put this in the PCT forum so you know which way I am leaning.
Does anyone have experience in using Toremifene ???
have been getting huge abcess. Is it possible that Im missing the muscle in my glute because I had 1" 23 gauge? I only have 3.5ml left. Today I got the oil above 165 to ensure there was not bacteria. I suppose I will test it in my thigh, and if I knot up again do I discard my deca? Any suggestions any one? I suppose that I'm too fat and I have been injecting into my fat all along. I did have some sever soreness a couple times in the muscle.... IDK... I have had a bad go around do to being an idiot... sigh
yes it is very possible to miss muscle with 1" pin. I am sure he have a very fat ass and need a very long needle to hit muscle. Try pinning tris or a less fatty part of your body. http://spotinjections.com/ will give you injection sites. Also you can get longer pins. The best thing to do is wait until you have lost the fat to cycle but that is late now. My favorite spot is the triceps. You should be able to get to muscle there unless your extremely fat.
most of us have made mistakes. The good thing is you have the resources to get things right. Either end cycle and make sure you do a good pct or finish and hit leanest muscle you have and then do a proper pct. If you have any questions I will be happy to answer them or send you to someone that can.
I wonder when it will become socially acceptable for Marines to be able to heal the damage of combat using Steroids? If Every pro baller can use it, but our wounded warriors cant get it what kind of world do we live in?
I'm glad I am not mortally scarred or wounded. Just ignorant and weak in pain. I feel for all my boys out there!!!
I wouldn't trust your Deca from the problems you've had at the injection sites. I would do pct and start fresh brotha. If you plan on continuing your current Deca then the prop is the way to go.
its very tempting to get new deca in a couple weeks, get my pct... and start prop asap....
I just dont want to make my choice based off my immediate wants, but make them off my immediate situation. At kleast I have work at 5 so I can think about steaks and prime rib, and not Think about what a douche I am, and how do I pull up from this tailspin...
IM SO HUNGRY!!!!!!
Test e 1-14 500 ew
Deca 300 ew 1-12
AI adex
Pct nolva and clomid
16-20
Caber on hand for prolactin sides.
Thus is my current cycle with dbol.
If your budget doesn't allow all you need just run a test only cycle with typical pct good nutrition lots of training and sleep and you will get great results.
I personally love Deca because of all my joint pains but find what works for you. I sent you friend request so I could send you a pm.
well that proves how ignorant I was. I thought all I needed was deca, protein and love in my heart....
I do want deca for its joint benefits.. My budget will allow for it when I plan properly. This is a great plan you have. As for right now, I was advised by another source to start test prop every other day ASAP... what do you think of that advice?
Start over brother. Clomid 100...100...50..50 & nolva 40...40...20...20. Thats daily dose per week for a month. Christmas start a good test e cycle only. Send friend request if ya need help
Yo fast, I read ( think it was one of treads posts) about using caber after coming off of deca after not running it on cycle...not sure if this can help usmc but pls elaborate if it does. Also what about an hcg blast to ramp up the natty t production before pct?
Thank you bro. So I tally two votes for starting over. One source says that I could try to sterilize it. I just brought it up above 165 and that should kill any bacteria. He aslo said to pass through a watson 45um, Well not that im beyond doing that I'm just wondering how much and when lol. So I do have options... I just dont know which one best suits me yet...
I would drop it and start from scratch when your funds are right. U can get a decent cycle from test only and about 300 bucks including AI and pct. I dropped decades before for the same reason after 4 weeks and came off of it clean without pct.
What do you think I should use for Ai and PCT? Thanks for the advice. I am compiling a list of options and after a coup[le days I will make my descion!!! I hope alot more people chime in with specifics. What types of test, doses, so on and so forth. As a marine and Chef, its all about having a good game plan, recipe, andf being able to adapt.
I wonder if my search for instant gratification did lead me into this... Anyway I have 12 twinkies and some porno here lemme just... wait a minute....
Stats? Like I'm a libra... I enjoy long walks on the beach. I love fois Gras, and blueberries....
I'm 5'9 225 25% body fat. Injured Mcl,pcl,right knee evusion fracture right ankle..
I took frag in the head.broken left thumb, had tendon removed from forearm to correct. 5 surgeries as a child including 4 steroid injections into bone, one year apart each to correct an 11cm bone cyst in right humorous (how come I just remembered that?) and a bone graft... Got some bad staph back in 2003-2008. How come I'm sure that you ment something different? LOL
Yeah bro, age, weight ect....Sounds like bunk or contaminated gear. I'd scrap it & follow through w/pct. Regroup & give it another run when you get ur funds right.
Test is a must. I would consider holding off of that deca and getting rid of it in general considering you are getting abscesses. Usually a good sign if shit gear.
Yea I thought about it. I suppose that I will boil it beforre my next pin, and i would filter if I could. I guess its an easy descion if I had money to replace it right away. I have 3ml left. I'm having great results, feel great... Thanks for your opinion matey!
Anonright on brotha. i can definitely relate to being steered wrong. i've been running juice for about a year now under the advice/guidance of a personal friend. until a couple months ago, i had no idea how misguided i really was. a lot of people it seems are too timid to come out and admit they don't have all the knowledge. instead they pretend to know their shit. takes a man to admit his shortcomings and ask for help. +1 for that one
thanks man. I caught alot of flak, some trolling, and in time I was steered towards some great knowledge. I am down in weight and BF since I posted thois markedly even after suffering back to back injuries.
marines Never give up. We dont retreat, we just attack in a different direction.
JohnnyBlackIt takes a lot of HOORAH to post that .... well pretty much you fucked up and you need help, good job reaching out man +1 for stopping and asking for help.
Other members can give you better advice than myself on this topic.
"A combination of both drugs appears to be very synergistic, HCG providing an immediate effect on the testes (shocking them out of inactivity) while the anti-estrogen helps later to block inhibition on the hypothalamus and resume the normal release of gonadotropins from the pituitary. The typical procedure involves giving the Clomid/Nolvadex dose from the start with HCG, but continuing it alone for a few weeks once HCG has been discontinued. This practice should effectively raise testosterone levels, which will hopefully remain stable once Clomid/Nolvadex have been discontinued."
I will look for more info into this. I'm not sure I want to shock my testes... Unless someone does it with me for moral support....
A blast of HCG to come off and run the very popular Clomid/nolva protocol talked about would do you well.
So how would he run the HCG with the clomid and Nolva?
Yea that was my point. I was wondering what a blast off was... We arnt talking the same laungauge somtimes haha. Maybe I should google HCG blastoff for fun!
I dont have any knowledge of HCG... Would you care to share with me?
Guy has "I am a fuckign HCG salesman" in his name. I would not trust anything he says.He maybe 100% correct but I would not care.Look for advice on HCG some where else.
What no shit I didnt notice that lol. I'm actually reading up on it..
there is a guy on here name cdaddy I think that might have some good info on the subject.http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/hcg-what-is-it...
Thank you once again man. Your racking up points towards a Steak dinner gift card!
cdaddy7Here's my input bro...Stop the cycle...at this point if you go further it looks like it's goin to be worse...You have the wrong cycle rolling off the bat and you have a nice little localized infection that can turn into something worse...You need to stop and get a PCT ASAP and start bc you levels are probably jacked up at this point but not too bad...I can tell you that this is a mission you need to abort and regroup at a later date..you are at the perfect site to learn and make your next cycle the best
thank you for the comments. I value them.
I'm not sure if I should decide my future off a Tarot read even after all the expert advice here. The tarot reading was so on point it brought me to tears.
I also had a dream last night that My math teacher never taught me how to properly do the formulas. When I confronted him the whole class walked out
Well I attempeted to sterilize my gear and I pinned .5 to my thigh the other night. Its been 36 hours. Woke up really sore today, not so much yesterday.(I did ride my bike hardish yesterday, even if for short duration.And I had done pd0x the day before. No lump... Was I really shooting into my fatty ass?
My last card in my tarot card is what I had against me. It was the Hermit. A time to be alone, or it can mean a time not to make hasty choices.
So is it hasty to discontinue and PCT in fear that I have gone to far down the wrong road, Or is it hasty to decide that I want to continue with test prop, then have all my PCT settup...
I know the majority of comments say to scrap and start over , and that weighs heavy on me.If the choice was a clear cut easy one I would not need further assistance..
I did put this in the PCT forum so you know which way I am leaning.
Does anyone have experience in using Toremifene ???
have been getting huge abcess. Is it possible that Im missing the muscle in my glute because I had 1" 23 gauge? I only have 3.5ml left. Today I got the oil above 165 to ensure there was not bacteria. I suppose I will test it in my thigh, and if I knot up again do I discard my deca? Any suggestions any one? I suppose that I'm too fat and I have been injecting into my fat all along. I did have some sever soreness a couple times in the muscle.... IDK... I have had a bad go around do to being an idiot... sigh
yes it is very possible to miss muscle with 1" pin. I am sure he have a very fat ass and need a very long needle to hit muscle. Try pinning tris or a less fatty part of your body. http://spotinjections.com/ will give you injection sites. Also you can get longer pins. The best thing to do is wait until you have lost the fat to cycle but that is late now. My favorite spot is the triceps. You should be able to get to muscle there unless your extremely fat.
Your post is making me laugh and smile alot
I'm a fucking tard. I have .5 inch of fat, and I'm shooting with a 1"....
I AM DOING EVERYTHING WRONG, WHEN WILL THIS STOP hahahah
I'm a fucking nutcase
most of us have made mistakes. The good thing is you have the resources to get things right. Either end cycle and make sure you do a good pct or finish and hit leanest muscle you have and then do a proper pct. If you have any questions I will be happy to answer them or send you to someone that can.
Mostly everyone started without the proper research. I know I did. Thank God we now have the internet. ;)
I wonder when it will become socially acceptable for Marines to be able to heal the damage of combat using Steroids? If Every pro baller can use it, but our wounded warriors cant get it what kind of world do we live in?
I'm glad I am not mortally scarred or wounded. Just ignorant and weak in pain. I feel for all my boys out there!!!
I wouldn't trust your Deca from the problems you've had at the injection sites. I would do pct and start fresh brotha. If you plan on continuing your current Deca then the prop is the way to go.
its very tempting to get new deca in a couple weeks, get my pct... and start prop asap....
I just dont want to make my choice based off my immediate wants, but make them off my immediate situation. At kleast I have work at 5 so I can think about steaks and prime rib, and not Think about what a douche I am, and how do I pull up from this tailspin...
IM SO HUNGRY!!!!!!
Test e 1-14 500 ew
Deca 300 ew 1-12
AI adex
Pct nolva and clomid
16-20
Caber on hand for prolactin sides.
Thus is my current cycle with dbol.
If your budget doesn't allow all you need just run a test only cycle with typical pct good nutrition lots of training and sleep and you will get great results.
I personally love Deca because of all my joint pains but find what works for you. I sent you friend request so I could send you a pm.
well that proves how ignorant I was. I thought all I needed was deca, protein and love in my heart....
I do want deca for its joint benefits.. My budget will allow for it when I plan properly. This is a great plan you have. As for right now, I was advised by another source to start test prop every other day ASAP... what do you think of that advice?
Start over brother. Clomid 100...100...50..50 & nolva 40...40...20...20. Thats daily dose per week for a month. Christmas start a good test e cycle only. Send friend request if ya need help
Yo fast, I read ( think it was one of treads posts) about using caber after coming off of deca after not running it on cycle...not sure if this can help usmc but pls elaborate if it does. Also what about an hcg blast to ramp up the natty t production before pct?
Thank you bro. So I tally two votes for starting over. One source says that I could try to sterilize it. I just brought it up above 165 and that should kill any bacteria. He aslo said to pass through a watson 45um, Well not that im beyond doing that I'm just wondering how much and when lol. So I do have options... I just dont know which one best suits me yet...
X2. Bin it, PCT time.
Thankls for your opinion. I value it!
I would drop it and start from scratch when your funds are right. U can get a decent cycle from test only and about 300 bucks including AI and pct. I dropped decades before for the same reason after 4 weeks and came off of it clean without pct.
What do you think I should use for Ai and PCT? Thanks for the advice. I am compiling a list of options and after a coup[le days I will make my descion!!! I hope alot more people chime in with specifics. What types of test, doses, so on and so forth. As a marine and Chef, its all about having a good game plan, recipe, andf being able to adapt.
I wonder if my search for instant gratification did lead me into this... Anyway I have 12 twinkies and some porno here lemme just... wait a minute....
I've had good snatch that gave me clap ;)
Just because the results are there doesn't mean that its not contaminated.
Its hard to postpone instant gratification but most of the time its worth it.
HOORAH.
Damn, you had to drop it on me like that!!! lol So if I stop the deca, I need PCT right away?
Stats? Like I'm a libra... I enjoy long walks on the beach. I love fois Gras, and blueberries....
I'm 5'9 225 25% body fat. Injured Mcl,pcl,right knee evusion fracture right ankle..
I took frag in the head.broken left thumb, had tendon removed from forearm to correct. 5 surgeries as a child including 4 steroid injections into bone, one year apart each to correct an 11cm bone cyst in right humorous (how come I just remembered that?) and a bone graft... Got some bad staph back in 2003-2008. How come I'm sure that you ment something different? LOL
Yeah bro, age, weight ect....Sounds like bunk or contaminated gear. I'd scrap it & follow through w/pct. Regroup & give it another run when you get ur funds right.
Test is a must. I would consider holding off of that deca and getting rid of it in general considering you are getting abscesses. Usually a good sign if shit gear.
Yea I thought about it. I suppose that I will boil it beforre my next pin, and i would filter if I could. I guess its an easy descion if I had money to replace it right away. I have 3ml left. I'm having great results, feel great... Thanks for your opinion matey!
Thank for your service. We're gonna need some additional info. Stats???
Kids.......TEST is ALWAYS used as a base!!!!!!!!
I replied to you, but not in the correct spot, sorry only been here a couple days.