posted Sun, 08/18/2019 - 08:22
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Natural Testosterone?
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I was thinking, and (this questions is asked to the older crowd).. As i get older, and as i do a cycle, by cycle, by cycle...will my natural testosterone just automatically just disappear. Or will there always be good amount if you PCT correctly. How are you older folks feeling without any AAs in your system?
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Its not only for older guys. When i was in powerlifting 4 years ago, there was a lot of juice involved and my wife wanted to have kids so had to jump off. We were trying for almost 7 months with no luck. Clinics didnt help, I told them to start hcg. Apparently in Ireland where I live they only allowed to prescribe this after 2 years trying to conceive. So i ordered one online. Dont remember exact dose but it was higher than my usual 1000iu every second day. After just over a month, bingo :). Recovered and conceived. No matter what it is im hooked on that magic oil for life.
How long did you cycle before jumping on the HCG bro?
But before i honestly didn't take pct seriously so used only hcg and then Tribestan.
Now my pct is: after cycle, 1 week i wait and then start 1000iu every 2nd day 5000iu total.
Than wait 7 days and start clomiphene 50mg 2 times a day for 10 days and 50mg 1 tab for 20 days with tamoxifen 20mg 3 times a day.
Guys whats your pct? Would be nice to know, maybe any suggestions
Last cycle was 15 weeks than I had pct but it was hcg 1000iu every second day for 5 days didnt help so after 3 months I did aprox 2500iu ( was 4 years ago dont remember the dose)every 3 days 4 times and it worked. In my experience increasing the dose helped or it was maybe coincidence due to time.
Aah right good to know. From the way you were talking it was sounding like blasting and cruising for a year or 2 thats why I ask pal
Not judging, just wanting background on your history with you being into powerlifting also.
No no :), for me I try to listen to my body and in most cases after 3 months I already don't feel that boost as at beginning of the cycle so I take rest. What's your total?
2500 lb's Lol
Alphamale500More and more cycles, less and less natural test!
It seems that as you keep cycling the PCT becomes tougher and tougher to get back. Therefore I think most guys who've been doing this a while go to TRT.
But your best chance of avoiding this is too use heavy amounts of HCG during your PCT. It is powerful!
StevebI wonder how many guys who are shut down bad from many cycles actually took a long time off to see if they could actually recover. My guess is not many and they just went to TRT.
I took more than year off with help of 2 doctors after very heavy cycles.Tried pct twice but couldnt got back at all and one of the doctor told me it can come back in 3years
so after that i went straight to Trt. I had a sperma problem too but that come back perfectly after 6months.Same thing happened to Greg Doucette who tried pct twice too and after 6 months his testosterone production drop very low.It is a big myth you just need to do pct and everything will be fine.
StevebDid you try HCG, GNRH, or any diets? I bought this stuff called Androtrex that helped a lot. My first cycle was a deca only because I had no idea what I was doing and someone gave it to me.
Personally I believe once you have run a cycle and shut down your production for a minimum of 8 weeks, even if you run a successful PCT and get things going again it will never be quite as good as it was before. If you think of all the glands you've affected and each of the elements involved in the production of testosterone its never going to be 110% again. Ultimately though its 6 and two 3's as you'll never experience the phenomenal gains you can make using steroids as opposed to staying natural all your life.
yeah bro great answer.
TronEven without aas at the age of 30 we begin to lose about 1% of our testosterone every year.. this is on average.. some cases more or less depending on the individual.. that being said if (much like us) are cycling.. and I hate to use this word.."ABUSING" testosterone..even with pct.. I'd say you are upping your chances dramatically to become a TRT patient at an earlier age than someone who does not cycle aas..
I knew that you dropped 1% after 30..
Its the question of is it worth it, becuase ur gonna loose it anyways..
But in the long run, does having muscle outweigh your sex life when u are older...and in a relationship.
Thank u for the response
You can have muscle and a good sex life when your older.
But probably not if you worry about it...
TronI would say that's a personal answer that you should ask yourself...what I think or any of us think simply doesn't matter if it's a matter that your choices effect YOU and not us.
RustyhookerCycles will eventually halt your recovery. Some of the kiddies on here killed their axis before 25. Other folks got more years before trt.
Good info thank u
Keep going as long as you can. Sticking yourself with a needle forever is tiring. If I’m lucky, I have like 40 more years of it.
TronClick on the reply button when you want to respond to someone so we will know who you are responding to.
The damage caused by anabolic steroids is not yet fully known, I was talking about it a few days ago with my doctor.
It depends a lot on each person.
In some people there is an incomplete recovery of gonadotropic function ( hormones that "command" the hormonal function of the testicles ).
We all know that it can be completely restored after the administration of drugs that restart hormonal activities.
Some people do not normalize testosterone levels perhaps because of irreversible damage to some testicular cells (Leydig cells that produce testosterone).
Still others, although testosterone is at normal levels, seem to fail to recover sexual desire and erectile dysfunction.
There are many incomplete theories.
It takes months and months to find out if hormone levels are back on average.
A normal PCT will never be reliable.
Thanks for the info
Every time you cycle there is s chance you won’t recover.
As we get older the chance of no recovery gets bigger.
One thing is certain, if you cycle and pct it will have a detrimental effect on your test levels.
A good pharma pct, moderate cycling and spending the necessary time off cycle will help your chances of recovery.
Ultimately if you run a half year cycle of test, Deca and Tren there will be less of a chance of recovery.
Getting bloods 6 weeks after pct should give a good indication if you have recovered or not.
He thinks that a single dose of 100mg of Nandrolone can reduce testosterone production by 75%, and then rise again after twenty days.
I believe that each of us chooses his or her own medication based on the danger and damage it can cause to our system. That is why I have never used “top sellers” of steroids.
I agree with the choice of PCT Pharma Grade drugs.