Nandro/Test cycle - Gyno issues
Hey Guys,
Each ml - Per ml: NPP 70mg, Nandro Deca 130mg, Test Phenylprop 130mg, Test decanoate 270,mg (two shots per week)
Im wondering if I could get a little help understanding all the research that I have done recently. Essentially, I need a little more clarification on what on cycle support to use. Specifically, my issue is that, for the first time ever, I have developed a little bit of gyno under my left nipple. I have read several times that Aroma and Nolva are ineffective when used together. I also have caber on the way, which I plan to take at .25 EOD until the issue subsides. I also have Arimedx and Aromasin on hand, but at this point I have only tried using the Aroma to reverse the gyno. I'm not sure that the Aroma I have is even legit (thats a different story). I have never run a cycle that had Nor-19 esters, but I figured I would give it a shot this time around. I am about 6 weeks into it. In the past I have always run EQ and Sus and maybe some orals. I have great experiences with previous cycles, but this time around it doesn't seem like I am as strong as I was on the EQ, (of course I was running T-bol with EQ too). To be honest I'm kind of disappointed in the results that I have gotten thus far, but I a going to continue running it through. I know Deca takes a while to kick in, but the Mix has NPP in it as well. My libido is jacked right up, although not quite as high the previous cycles. I know this post is a little sloppy, but I am willing to edit and add any information to it if requested. I really need help with gyno issue, should I also be taking a SERM? I don't want to completely destroy all the estrogen in my body, and from the research I've done I think that may gyno may prolactin related (although there's no lactation). I appreciate any help that I can get here.
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If gyno is 2 far along ralox and letro or ralox and aromasin is your best bet in my case 3 months crashed estro with letro and raloxifene at 90mg per day i reduced my pea size lump still slightly there but unnoticable
Smithy5840Thank you!
little confused why you wouldnt just run a single new compound and skip a blend... I guess this is another case that is a reminder of: blood work needling to be done, having ALL compounds on hand that are needed or may potentially be needed and why PHARMA grade ancillaries should always be used.
as makwa said, blood work before you make any decisions on adding or changing any ancillaries. immediately order pharma grade products that may be needed and get bloods pulled as soon as possible.
if you heard a sound at night and thought someone was breaking into your house you wouldn't just whip out your shot gun and start shooting away in the dark. you would turn the lights on and investigate before making any rash decisions. same with this situation. figure out what you're working with, what the problem is before reacting.
Smithy5840Thank you! How would I go about getting blood work done? I have a lab thats local that does just blood draws and labs, but I have only gone there with a Dr.'s order. Is it possible to go to a lab like that and request blood work without a Dr.'s order? Also, other than telling them I would like to have my test, Estro, prolactin, and Cholesterol checked, is there anything else that I should be asking for? My last question is: Do you know of any books that talk about proper AAS use and cycle protocol? Ive been searching online for one, but most of them seem to skate right over most of the topics, discussing only the basics of test, estro, esters, etc. Thanks!
Best advice and guidance you are going to get is right here at Eroids. The combined knowledge and experience here is far greater than any book you are going to find.
Testrogen_PropC...I'd like to start by saying a 19nor is not an ester. Get bloodwork done. You're probably going to need letrozole and caber to get rid of your gyno. Nolvadex will not help at this point as it actually raises prolactin. Sorry if I missed anything else, that was a huge wall o' text.
Sounds like you are way in over your head here. Drop the 19nors and get some bloodwork done asap. Aromasin isn't going to reverse gyno. You are likely going to need to run a protocol with letro or raloxofine. Don't just go throwing caber into the mix thinking it going to solve things because you are taking a 19nor. Your prolactin may be just fine so don't go taking something without bloodwork showing you need to.
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Smithy5840I think that's the approach I am going to take.... and thanks for the etiquette edit suggestion. I have removed what you asked me to.