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+ 1 HIgh E2 3 months after PCT

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Hi guys, i've done a 14 weeks cycle as follows:
- Test E 150mg E3.5D, lowered to 125mg after 7 weeks
- LGD4033 5mg, discontinued after 8 weeks (SHBG was too low)
- MK677 30mg

Started PCT after 10 days from last pin (since i used a "low dose" after 1 half-life i had alread normal-lowish test levels). I did 6 weeks of clomid 25mg + nolvadex 10mg. I've waited 3 months after PCT and i got bw:

Total test 4.4 ng/ml
E2 54.6 pg/ml
SHBG 24.4 nmol/L
LH 3.13 mUI/mL
FSH 5.37 mUI/mL

It all fits my pre-cycle bw, except made for the E2, which were on the lower end, and now it's over the higher end. I'm not "sad" about that, because if i accomplish to lower the E2, my test will get higher than pre-cycle lol
I'm thinking about using exemestane to control the E2 (low dose, but how low? how long?) or increasing the zinc supp from 30mg to 45mg, and adding DIM and/or calcium d-glucarate.

(My BF is not high, I look like my last uploaded pic, less veiny with 2-3% bf more)

trash300's picture

Very short PCT

Try 6.25 Aro ed till E2 is in range than slowly lower the dosage till you're off.
do yourself a favor and run 1-2 months 3x 75 hmg per week to recover your system

miticco's picture

6 weeks PCT is short? My numbers are the same as pre-cycle, still better than pre first cycle. Why should i run HMG?

miticco's picture

I respect your words, but i don't agree with you. My SHBG was at 8 nmol/l causing really high E2 (124 pg/ml), i didn't use any AI even if i had on hand, because i wanted to use the minimum effective dosage to achieve my goals, with less side effects, so i dropped what lowered so much the SHBG.

Having very low SHBG is not a good thing for health, its job is avoiding testosterone "sticking" where it shouldn't be, like the prostate.

For the pct thing, if i'm understanding correctly, you stated that the dosage was too low. I don't agree with this statement too. I've red different studies on different dosages of tamoxifen and clomiphene where the low dose provided the same effects as the higher dose. That's what i found ATM:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4053157/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17709798/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12783932/

Other than that, my hormonal panel looks like the pre-cycle one, i'm just happy with that Biggrin
We play a risky game, some more some less, stay healthy!

Makwa's picture

You need a suicide inhibitor. That would be aromasin. If you want to play around with the number I would take very low dose. 6.25mg for only a day or two. Looking at the big picture though, if you are feeling fine without any sides I wouldn't worry about it to much. Don't get to hung up on the number, it is not that much over normal. Take baby steps if you do decide to use ai. It can tank fast without any exogenous test.

papa.smurf0311's picture

Im in the High Conversion rate club. I tried Letro and Adex and still have crazy rebound. Aromosin seems to clear me right up.

miticco's picture

Thank you Makwa, appreciate it. I've just popped 6.25mg let's see how it goes. I've some side effects like night sweats and half erections, i feel comfortable at normal-lowish E2

Makwa's picture

Asin works quick so just don't overdue it.