posted Sat, 09/07/2013 - 02:13
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hcg on test e cycle.
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Hi,
I'm on my third week of my test e cycle and I'm getting ball shrinkage. I know this is to be expected but I'm not really sure what I should do, I don't really want to let them shrink any more if I can do something about it. so this is my question if I run hcg how often should I do this and what dose? Will it bring them back to size or just make them stay the same and not get any worse until I pct?
I'm running aromasin at 12.5mg eod for my si.
I have nolva and clomid ready for pct.
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im not a fan of HCG use for normal cycling. if you are simply running a test only cycle, i believe HCG is not needed and shouldnt be used. here is why, there is a lot of "bro science" when it comes to HCG. some guys say use it all the time with every cycle. i disagree, i believe it should only be used for the really long cycles, TRT, and blast and cruisers. i also think there is other options to use for testicular atrophy. things like toremifene and clomid have similar end results as HCG. so here is why i say dont mess with HCG on cycle. you put testoserone or other AAS compounds in you that say "shut down htpa function" than you take HCG and it says "turn on htpa function" so what you get is an atagonistic effect. like turning a light bulb off and on repeatedly. what happens to any light bulb after you turn it off and on over and over? burn out. if someone wants to run hcg, i feel it should only be ran as a pct kick start. say for 20 days. last HCG pin should be the day before PCT meds are started. use it as a HTPA kick start for PCT. if you have an issue with your balls getting small maybe a small dose of tore or clomid. i use 20mg of tore to get mine looking normal when i want them looking normal. but honestly my sex life aint effected by size of my balls, my woman dont care either. i blast n cruise so i use the tore for a few reason, ill even use clomid from time to time for the same reason. keep estrogen out of testes, keep sperm count up, the slight raise in LH and FSH the day i take them gives my sex drive a kick for the day. also makes my testicals look normal. ive read where some pros also follow this same line of thought. rich piana being the most outspoken in this area.
thanks for the advice, I could save my hcg for pct. i have clomid so what is a good dose to run? I'm using aromasin too so is it cool to run them at the same time?
so youre running test e, which means pct wouldnt start for 2 weeks after last pin. (14 days) so start the HCG 6 days before your last pin. i hope you are running more than clomid. you should be running clomid with nolvadex or toremifene.
hcg can be ran at 250-500iu 2-3 times a week
I'll be running nolvadex and clomid 14 days after the last pin, I did do as much research as possible before I jumped in, So I'm running an si and have my pct in line ready to go. I was hoping not to get too much ball shrinkage but as it's happened so quickly its freaked me out, I guess as long as it's not causing me damage I'm fine with it. Thanks for your help, I'll be doing my hcg as you said. In your first reply you said clomid would help with my ball shrinkage, so if I do this what would be the dose? as I said before I'm running aromasin at 12.5mg eod.
clomid 25-50mg for testicular atrophy. 2-3 times a week
Thanks for all your help bro!
You might even want to go 500iu initially to reawaken the boys and then 250 x 2 per week after that to maintain.
Obama Blows250iu's twice a week bro
U beat me to the punch on this one!
thanks bro