GYNO PLEASE HELP!
Ok so this is my first post on here so take it easy guys! Heres the deal im 20 years old ive been working out for several years very seriously, I work at a gym and bodybuilding is one of the most important things in my life. When I was 19 I decided I wanted to experiment with prohormones. I did a lot of research but not nearly as much as needed. I bought Emass 3x by Galaxy supps. For those of you unaware what this is, its three compounds in one. Halodrol, Max LMG and Superdrol. I developed itchy, sore nipples within the first week of taking it, also I could squeeze a very small amount of liquid out the nipple area. HOWEVER even with the obv gyno signs I thought I was going to be alright, because the guy who sold it to me said it had estrogen blockers in it and I couldnt develop gyno( of course I listened, he was bigger than me right?) Anyways I developed gyno and went to my doctor about a month later when I knew it wasnt going away.(obv waited to long I know I know I know) I got my levels tested and she claimed they were all about right, I told her what I was taking and she still thought it would go away on its own, and sent me to get a mammogram just to be sure it was only breast tissue and nothing else(boy did that hurt when she rubbed it over my nipple). The doctor examined the mammogram and said it was just breast tissue nothing to worry about. I met with my doctor and she wanted me to then met with a surgeon just to see his opinion, that doctor told me that it was very small gyno and not worth surgery unless I felt I needed it, which at the time I was just lucky everything was ok so I declined it since it was so small. BUTTT then I read that Epistane was a great way to reduce GYNO. So after countless hours of research on how well it worked I decided to give it a try. Well sure enough it only made the gyno bigger, about twice as big. Before eroids I had no way of getting the AI and SERMS I needed so I took a OTC PCT.
***Those of you who took the time to read this I really appreciate the help and am ready to take an helpful advice and listen and learn as much as possible, I want to LEARN!
******** MY QUESTIONS ARE*******
1. If I were to follow a letro protocol to try and reduce my gyno which I belive is progesterone, how should I taper off Letro and prevent estro rebound? I've been reading that nolva after letro wont be the best for progesterone gyno because it upregulates the receptors...so what do I take after letro to avoid rebound?(BTW I have letro and nolva on hand I just ordered, but now am reading nolva is a no go with the progesterone gyno)
2. I believe it is progesterone gyno because the max LMG is a progestin, but appearntly its structurally similar to the abortion pill and is suppose to act as a anti-progesterone? can some explain how I could of got gyno would get gyno, because superdrol and halodrol arent suppose to aromatize and a the other compound thats suppose to be a anti-progestrone?
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TropicanaJuiceProbably doesnt change anything but I meant halovar not halodrol*
I would say see some different doctors. But for progesterone related gyno and since you said you are lactating a little you should look into prami or cabergoline.
TropicanaJuiceor dont take letro and take what joose said?
Anonif you take lethro you'll diminish your estrogen levels too far, which will also cause you prolonged issues.
TropicanaJuiceIf I were to take the caber would I use it along side the letro? and also what should i take instead of nolva to stop estro rebound once i taper of letro, because nolva Ive been hearing is not what to take when your dealing with progesterone gyno
Anoncaber is for progesterone.. and from what you described.. i would assume you don't have it.
AnonMistake 1- buying epistane
Mistake 2- > "because superdrol and halodrol arent suppose to aromatize"
Mistake 3- its not progesterone, its 99.9% estrogen bound gyno
I would think you have gyno from a build up.. first off, you are stupid for taking all orals. you are shutting yourself down and setting up for a crash..
If the estrogen has not attached and bound in the area.. you still have a chance of defeating it and not having to have surgery...
What to do:
Get Aromasin and run it at 12.5mg ED
Raloxifene and run it at 60mg daily.
and for the love of God, stop dumping shitty pro hormones in your body and do some research before you seriously fuck yourself up...you'll need to run these for at least 2 months to completely solve the problem.
TropicanaJuicewhy do you believe its not progesterone tho? the other two compounds arent suppose to aromatize and the max lmg is a progestin
Anonwell, I'm sure being on all those orals and no form of injectable test shut you down..
so since you didnt use a pharm grade "REAL" PCT, when you came off, your body produces estrogen as it tries to restart production of testosterone.
TropicanaJuicemakes sense, but I started to get real puffy nipples and a bump and itchy and soreness just after week one of the emass 3x?
Hm, weird, I took them before and I'm kinda sensitive to gyno and I didn't get notta notta of gyno. I got zero gyno...prop on the other hand....
Anonitchy/puffy sounds like estrogen to me.
TropicanaJuiceeven though there was a little liquid when I sequeezed it? and what are you referring to by saying that the letro wont help with " unbound estro"
Anonlethro will just suppress the shit out of it and then you run the risk of having it come back as your body tried to adjust.. I mean, If I was with you and could examine you I could give you a evaluation and better advice.
TropicanaJuiceisnt taking nolva after the letro eliminate the possibility or estrogen rebound? my original plan was letro to kill gyno then nolva to prevent estro rebound, but if it really is progesterone then the nolva is only gonna make it worse appearntly
Anonif you had blood work done I could tell you what protocol would be
TropicanaJuiceIf I got blood work done now wont all my levels be normaled out by now
Anonthats the point.......
and no, not if you have a estrogen/prog build up
I need to see what each level is iso I can diagnose it lol.
TropicanaJuiceI think ill get blood work done, if it is estro gyno how come it came about within the first week? isnt that pretty quick to take effect?
Anonits fast.. get a panel done and let me know, ill let you know what you need to do..
F/R sent.
TropicanaJuiceok thanks, how do I go about asking for it, Ive asked for more blood work after the first time I got the blood work done and my doctor said they only do it if theres something there looking for...
TropicanaJuiceLots of mistakes I will admit too, and I know now from people on this site that ACTUALLY know what there talking about that I was in the wrong, so thank you. But isnt letro the best AI you can use for existing gyno?
Anonlethro won't clear up unbound estrogen.. for your case, I would say lethro isn't going to be the best.. might have to invest in some aro/ralox for the sake of saving yourself from surgery
AnonThis is MD shit man!
Go see a Doctor: NOW
TropicanaJuiceI did see a doctor tho, thats the thing, I also had a mammogram and went to a surgeon. I want to give letro a try to see if I can reduce it, I will try anything before surgery. I just dont know what to take after letro because my plan was nolva but appearntly thats not good with progesterone gyno