What has happened with my cycle?
This is my first cycle, running 500 mgs a week of Test E. First week I frontloaded the test. Weeks about 1-6 ish I was feeling amazing, each day I was gaining, smashing weight, horny, clearly bigger and bigger and stronger and stronger, pumps were awesome and I felt like THE alpha male, THENNNN I stopped noticing the effects so much, I was thinking that I had low e2 because I got bloods done at the 4th week and added some aromasin when I didnt need too, Worked with Dossier and dropped aromasin, ive been off aromasin for about a week and a half- 2 weeks and still nothing, no water retention nothing. I went thru 2 bottles of Test E from CENSORED brand, then switched to some CENSORED from a promo I received, and pinned a couple amps from CENSORED My question is WHAT HAS HAPPENED, I have lost size, my strength is slighty, slighty lower, very harrd to push same weight, energy is down, sex drive isnt there. I need some help only have about a week of pinning left but would like to know what might have happened so next cycle I can crush it for the whole cycle not half.
P.S. I Am up 12 pounds, was up 15 at about 6th week, have not gained since then, I feel normal again
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eat more. up protein and carbs.
TropicanaJuiceYes I think your right
I'm mixed about this. I think parts of this was in your head. I went through something similar. I was feeling incredible up until week 9 then it seemed like everything kinda leveled out. I stopped gaining really. I still felt good, just not great. I think our bodies reach a point where you flatline and you kinda get use to it. Just like any drug tolerance. That's what usually sends us looking for more or reasons why it's not working.
I'm not saying you are crazy or anything like that because like I said, I felt the same way. The odd thing is I was also running CENSORED but I was using Adex. My e2 was higher in the range but normal. It's possible your e2 was causing this. I would just ride out the last week and move on.
Only way to know for sure is labs. Not sure where you live but could you drive to another state. I have to drive an hour to another state but it's worth it. I'd drive further if I had to. Make a day out of it. They are open on Saturdays. Take the girl and explore a new city
TropicanaJuiceGood point man ya I'm gonna chalk this cycle up as a WIN I have put on great size just sucks I don't have that on feeling I did in the begging and my strength has went down a little but I'm sure it's either I'm my head or e2 since I kept fucking with the dose
WTF is wrong with you!...... if that's quality that is some serious gaining, ALSO! most importantly you mention NOTHING about nutritional intake or increasing proteins as the weight piles up?................. ALL I am reading about here is GEAR,GEAR, AND MORE GEAR?....Which I had to censor.
TropicanaJuiceI'm not dissatisfied with my results 12 pounds is awesome!, BUT what I'm saying is that all came on about 4-6 weeks in, since then I have gained no weight. My protein is very high, fat is low, carbs are good range too. I feel like shit in other words, deff don't feel like I'm "on" anymore is what im getting at
That's how it is sometimes bro... im on a pre/comp cutter at the moment using more short esters daily than you could fkn imagine and I don't feel ON at all, I blame it on low carbs at this stage and not be able to handle the same heavy poundages.. all phyco-logical I am sure lol... check that for fkn spelling lmaoooo....... jack your carbs up and re-focus see were that takes you.
Rustyhookerold read that helps confirm Vikings food ideals.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/why-cant-i-feel-my-cycle
Thanks brother that's a good article he sure needs to read and digest...... a good head straightener, I thionk I hit you some karma on that post,, cant remember.. heres +3 for your great work here
TropicanaJuiceThat is a good read, vike I want to get your feedback on carb backloading. If your not familiar you can google it and there's several articles on it. When you get a chance can you tell me what u think thanks brother
RustyhookerThank you boss! Just want to see the OP hit his goals
TropicanaJuiceAnd sorry bro about all the censoring lol I thought that was fine
Don't worry about bro your not an asshole and you don't fuck up regular so were all good
TropicanaJuiceVery true man I'm sure it's that, I need to refocus and I'm sure ill be better, and next time stop fucking around with the doses or ai, lack of experience and recent gyno surgery made me crazy with figuring out e2. Gonna take 12.5 mgs for rest of cycle since that's what I was takin and bloods showed I was in range
Use adex. Those exact effects happen to me from aromasin. It's too powerful of an AI
Unless you are a full blown titty-growing-super-estrogen-sensitive-individual, aromasin is way too much AI for most people.
TropicanaJuiceI choose aromasin because I like the fact that it doesnt rebound, also I had gyno surgery at the beginning of the year but doc did leave tail end of the lump so technically I am a titty growing machine lol
RustyhookerRead the very bottom as well as check all his prior forums/cycles. He's not using proper blood tests or dosing properly. One day it's double the ai....then drop it...the "feel" odd so its all over the place.
Well the aromasin is definitely causing the issues. But the on/off doing scheme is going to cause more issues at that.
I still recommend using adex and seeing if that works better. Let's be honest, aromasin is more powerful and needs to be CONSISTENTLY taken daily. If you skip days here and there what happens is the following days will be disastrous.
But that is part of the problem with aromasin is it is usually in 12.5 or 25mg doses and it needs to be taken daily. There is new debate out there now saying aromasin only has about a 4 hour half life in men. the 27hours half life is in women, which is known because it's prescribed for postmenopausal women with breast cancer. Aromasin also has weird side effects which could be adding to the problem.
Which Is why I think adex would be better, it's dosing is soooo much easier to handle. With it's 3 day half life and you can dose it from 0.25mg 2x per week all the way to 1mg per day. This makes it much easier to control and dial in a perfect E2, plus you don't get all the dumb side effects you get from aromasin such as acne, hairloss, and bloating. (adex is better for bloat by the way)
RustyhookerDosing....everything about steroids is ALL about dosing and timelines for dosing. If you cant folliw any protochol...you should NOT be running any steroids.
Doses....its clearly known and stated repeatedly to NOT buy capsules. You lise the choice of dosing. Youre stuck to the suppliers caps. If its tabs that are 25mg...for a huge investment if $2....you buy a pill splitter.
Aromadin only has 1 drawback....its STRONG. Proven by blood tests posted and proven by posted blood tests. I ran 24weeks ended jan 10th...no zits, no acne, no hassles. But tgen again I was timely on all doses.
TropicanaJuiceWhat do you mean I'm not using proper blood tests? I got bloods done at week 4? And yes you are my aromasin dose is all over the place, I completely agree but it's my first cycle so I'm leaning high/low e2 symptoms, and recently having gyno removed puts me a little on edge but you are right about the doses
RustyhookerBlood test propetly done at week 6. When androgen buildup is present. Aro all over the place...YES it will jack you up. You see anyone on here changing long Esters HUGELY week to week by feel?
Food and proper dosing. Get your bloids done as stated below and in your last forum.
TropicanaJuiceI got it done at week 4 because I front loaded the test and was told week 4 would be good. But yes now I know to leave aro and stop adjusting it.
RustyhookerBlood test propetly done at week 6. When androgen buildup is present. Aro all over the place...YES it will jack you up. You see anyone on here changing long Esters HUGELY week to week by feel?
Food and proper dosing. Get your bloids done as stated below and in your last forum.
TropicanaJuiceP.S. Week about 8-9 was the extent of my GREAT feeling or "On cycle" feeling. And weeks 2-6 were amazing. switched test at week 9 too....hmm makes me wonder about my test levels
You wouldn't notice a long ester switch that quickly...and I haven't had a problem and haven't heard of a problem with gp
TropicanaJuiceVery true. However I remember when I was pinning my second bottle that I said to myself that I wasn't feeling so superman like and questioned the second bottle of test, however I added aromasin so I'm sure it was just lower e2
You get bloods run again?
TropicanaJuiceNo I was going to last week but it costs me about 160$ and I was thinking if my test is low and E2 is low theres nothing I can do. I have been off the aromasin waiting for e2 symptoms but nothing yet. And if test E is low I cant get my hands on some and run it just for a week then wait for PCT so I figured I would just finish up this week and go into PCT, sucks because I was crushing it the first 5-6 weeks and I noticed the kick start/end of week 2 from the frontload
RustyhookerPrivatemedlabs.com $59 as posted on your other posts. Or are you euro?
You can go thru privatemedlabs ? Woman's panel is cheap...I'm gonna guess your test is not low based on the lab but I'm guessing your e is either high or low. When I'd you start back with your aromasin back and at what dose?
TropicanaJuiceI think my e2 is starting to come back tho, erections are strong and my ejaculations are starting to feel a lot better, before when I was running aromasin I was certain my e2 was low, could very well be wrong tho
TropicanaJuiceIm in a state that doesnt work with privatemedlabs unfortunately, and havent started aromasin again
You haven't taken it at all...I would guess that your estro is high
TropicanaJuiceOh no, I haven't been taking it for a week and a half now, I was running aromasin at 12.5 mgs, week 4 bloods test was off the charts, and e2 was at 37 range was 7-42. I thought my e2 should be lower, which looking back it was perfect but I raised aromasin to about 18.75 mgs a day or 3/4 a pill. Felt my gyno lump start to feel like it flared up, but coulda even been in my head since I had gyno surgery like 4 months ago and I'm paranoid, jumped on letro for about a week and that sucked, then went back to aromasin at 12.5 mgs but my e2 seemed low again, joints were killing me and I was flat, couldn't get a pump and strength was down, that's why I have been off the aromasin, past couple days jumped on nolva 40 mgs Ed to try and let e2 raise without flirting with gyno