Clomid Anxiety
So here's my dilemma, I recently finished up a first cycle of the standard, 12 weeks of test e, 500mg pw. Went very well, didnt have any issues, put on about 15 pounds. Due to research and advice I was guidied into the standard pct of clomid and nolva 100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20 respectively.
I started this yesterday around noon taking the first dose and spent the rest of the day and night with pretty severe anxiety and panic attacks. I almost immediately felt weird after taking the dosage and was unable to sit through even getting my haircut without having to get up for fresh air multiple times. Even basic motor skills were affected by the anxiety and I had no control over the anxiety which lasted about 24hours. I have had a brief history of anxiety, but nothing within the last few years.
I did a fair bit of research and found that a side effect of clomid is anxiety so I decided to just try the nolva only today, and it's been a number of hours and I feel fine.
My questions is: if anybody has had similar experience to mine?
And if it would be okay to skip the clomid and only take the recommended dosage of nolva, as I am honestly afraid to give the clomid another chance?
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I do suffer from Anxiety for which i am prescribed diazepam. Ive been like that for years.
The strange thing Clomid has never ever affected my anxiety on any way at all. I just finished a PCT last clomid dose on sunday and no mood changes or anything at all
Clomid messed me up when I took during day. I take my dose at night with 20 nolva and another 20 nolva in the am. Clomid has a 5 day half life if I remember correctly. So your good taking it at night. I seem to be really sensitive to all the gear related things aka anything that fucks with my hormones. But I can relate clomid was a bitch. After taking at night it resided though. Hope that helps.
CLOMID can effect emotions in some people. I've seen 300lb grown men break down crying while on CLOMID.
I have seen many problems with pct, cause of which is unprofessional approach. 3-4 weeks after cycle I do blood test. Then I know if I have any problmes I have numbers in front of me and I know what to do. if I cant do the blood test I 3-4 weeks afer cycle I look at certain sypthoms if I don't have them I don't do any pct at all.
I'm doing a reboot pct at min on third day of clomid at 150mg a day I don't get the emotional bit but my mood has changed very hard to focus and feel very short tempered hoping it will subside
This is a 3-year old thread.
But, I don't think I've ever heard anyone suggest 150mg of clomid. This is way too much, and could damage your eyes.
There is no reason to use more than 50mg of clomid per day. Run that for 3 weeks, then 25mg per day until you feel recovered.
Come on pal. Standard PCT is:
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
When using harsh compounds like 19Nors or when trying a reboot, higher doses are warranted and extended PCT length may be needed. Dane3206 is on a reboot PCT so needs to run the clomid at 150mg ED for a short time as per the protocol he's using. I always run 1 week at 150mg when I've been on 19 Nors. I get a bit grumpy and emotional sure. Short tempered definitely but never anxiety. I've never had vision issues.
Not even Doctor Scally went that far.
We have ample research on clomiphene thanks to Androxal research. Higher doses to not result in commensurately higher testosterone levels. I agree that extended PCT is often warranted, which is why I advised running 25mg until recovery is felt.
You've repeated that phrase several times. Really? Blood tests are the only responsible way to KNOW that you've recoved. Guessing is not a responsible or healthy option.
But why start at 100mg...I was on 400mg of deca for 12wks and my pct was 50mg clomid 20mg novla for 4 weeks. When the month was over I was back into action. I would always recommend the lower dosage at 50mg of clomid. starting at 100mg off the top seems archaic nowadays. Some long time users who don't cruise don't even use nolva in their pct anymore either. It's all individually dependent.
You're being pedantic. I don't believe in hard and fast time periods for PCT. Run low dose clomid until you feel well. Wait a month, then get your blood work done.
Now you bring up bloods once "you feel well"? Back to guessing I see. Plenty of people don't feel a certain way, especially during or right after pct. getting bloods regardless of how you feel is the prudent path. Pretty simple.
I'm very happy for you and the fact you have extensive research. Me I will go of the real life experience of the thousands of members here. Do what you like and I wish you all the best with your recoveries.
I had the same outcome as you with the clomid, I literally have never felt that shitty before in my life, id rather be at the dentist or have diarrhea then to ever have that feeling again. Im currently 1 week into my pct, so its been 6 days without clomid, I'm currently taking Nolvadex, Aromasin, as well as HCGenerate. Will my testies not come back to regular size if i do not take the clomid? Not trying to forum jack you, just terrified of feeling that miserable again. Any info will be greatly appreciated, thanks.
cdaddy7Remember bro ur test levels are dropping and that estro hangs around. So u lose that sense of well being from the test while your body is shifting back into its so called chi with test/estro ratio. Here's what I would do if you go on another cycle. I would invest in HCG for PCT with nolva/clomid combo and I would def invest in a low dose AI to run while u r on cycle. I bet those two little tweaks will make that PCT a better come off then this one.
zewigood input right there. Good stuff like it +1
My first cycle was the same as yours..Exept I finished of with a designer called hdrol..
Anyways, I did a Clomid only PCT and recovered very well. I did not crash at all. In fact I felt great. I lost 5-6 pounds of water in the first 2 weeks of PCT. My nuts felt like they were getting bigger then before the cycle. I kept 10 pounds well after PCT ended.
I am VERY, VERY, VERY anxiety prone. In fact I have to take medication to manage it. I had no problem at all with anxiety while on Clomid. Thier were days I didnt take my anxiety medication while on Clomid and felt great. Thats just my experiance, I would never go without clomid in PCT. Everybody is different though, but Im a Clomid kinda guy..
I know this reply is old but what was your doseage for Clomid only pct
Thanks for all your help. For the information to understand that it is necessary and for being able to relate. I will try taking a lower dose before bed and hopefully I will be able to build up a tolerance to the anxiety quickly. Thanks for all the help!
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Just try taking 50mg of clomid too! Many dudes don't run 100mg due to side effects...everyone is different and it effects us all differently. I understand what you are feeling though...I never ran clomid before, just some tamoxifen. I had some awkwardly strange moments on PCT and after...sometimes I felt like I was almost beginning to have an acid flashback, which I can chalk-up to what was anxiety. I don't get anxiety too much anymore...but that's what it surely was.
Like I said...give 50mg a go...and was mentioned take it before bed...maybe it will give you some nutty dreams!!!
dexitrimOr switch to torem.
take your dose right before bed
zewix2
zewifirst thing. How long did you wait to start your PCT?
second sorry you need clomid if you want to kick start your testis.. read this
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/please-read-h......
the standard two weeks after last pin.
and the link is saying it's dead, I would appreciate the read though if you can get a live one.
Thanks
zewijust for you. Since it dead and if you cant find it.
Ok I’ve been reading and seeing a lot of people leaving Clomid out of their PCT.
We’ll let me tell you Clomid is what gets your testis working again. How you ask well I’m about to show you.. YES you need both Clomid and Nova to make your PCT. However, Clomid is the most important. Here is why.
How your testis make natural testosterone.
(REMEBRER TESTOSTERONE DOES TRUN INTO ESTROGEN THAT’S WHY WE TAKE AI's)
Leyding cells(your testis)---->make Natural Test------>(some turns into estrogen)-------------->pituitary Gland(Makes LH)----LH goes to------>Leyding cells(testis)make Natural Test--------and the process starts again...
If you have too much estrogen well now there will be too much estrogen hitting pituitary so the pituitary cannot make LH—no LH than your Testis can’t make test..Which is what happens after Cycle.
How Clomid works during PCT when your Testis can’t do shit.
Leyding cells(your testis)---->make Natural Test(some turns into estrogen)---which isn’t happing cause they are shut down and LH is not hitting your testis----------->Clomid blocks estrogen from hitting the pituitary(now the pituitary can make LH)---->pituitary Gland(Makes LH)----LH goes to------>Leyding cells makes Natural Test(your testis start to come alive)--------and the process starts again the correct way..because Clomid it blocking estro and your testis are coming back online.
Hope this helps to understand how Clomid works.
It's in the PCT forums. Read it bro, Uncle Zewi is a fucking STUD. Just go there on ur own don't wait on learning some great knowledge.
zewithanx brother!!