posted Wed, 11/22/2017 - 23:28
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aromatase inhibitor during cycle
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As I read and try to understand a cycle and prepare myself. I have been studying on just a Test C. cycle for 12 weeks. I read a lot of different opinions on aromatase inhibitor @6.25 mg day starting the 4th week in the cycle till the 12th week. However, considering just running 400-500mg test cs, would a person really need a aromatase inhibitor? I know some of it depends on how gyro prone you are. Any thoughts! Thanks.
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Have a AI on hand, monitor your estro level. Crushing estros to minimum level causes more problems than estro over the norm (believe me, you wan't to be on hormone rollercoaster). Just monitor and keep your estrogen on leash - choose the dose and keep it on that level what you want. But remember, don't crush it!
Regards.
Here are my thoughts on it and make sure you don't start any cycle until you have the AI sitting in front of you and I recommend getting pharma AI.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-cycle-when...
I have read a lot on the forum and everything you read is pretty much make sure you have everything you need before you start the cycle. Which makes sense. You never know about shipping issues, stock issues, etc. Thanks for the info reiterating that point. I am planning and trying to do things the right way when I am ready.....
Definitely have an ai on hand but you may not even need one.
Don't take ANYTHING if you don't need to.
Pre cycle bloods. This is probably the most important one so you know we're you are at baseline.
get more bloods at 4/6weeks in and listen to your body.
Hope this helps buddy good luck
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/ai-as-needed...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/ai-pct-dosin...
Start here bro
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/ai-what-are-...
I read that already....thanks though, Ill re read it again. I am curious on how strong a cycle I can go without using an AI.....Especially just running test c. and how much a week I could possibly go on mg of test.c.
Bro every person & every body is different. That’s how the good Lord made us
I know people that have never used an ai & never had issues & I know people that need them at high doses ed. My recommendation is have everything you need on hand before starting anything including your pct. I’m not sensitive to e2, but you might get grow breast your 3rd week in. The reason I gave you the link was to understand the reasoning behind using an AI. You won’t know how sensitive you are until you cycle & with a long ester like Test E or Test C, you won’t see sides till at least 2-3 weeks minimum. Another thing to know is that low estrogen & high estrogen often share the very same sides. Keep a cycle log from day one & log every side & what you did to resolve it. I notice swelling around my thumbs and some water retention first signs of e2 trouble. Before cycle, mid cycle & after cycle bloods will help you dial everything in & just research sides & be prepared.
3 blood test, before, midway, and after. I have been all over this place reading, studying cycle logs and the associated things to take along with the cycles. Its a little overwhelming at first, but you start piecing it together. I now understand why you read people stressing the point to understand what you are doing before you start a cycle. I see a lot of people who hop on here and are just ready to go wide open, especially younger guys who do not need the test. I'm going to sit down and log everything out and everything I need along with the blood test and what time I need to take them during the cycle and possible side effects to look for during the cycle, which is dependent on which medication I would choose to handle the estrogen. I have been on TRT 200mg every other week for for about 9 months now and never understood as much as I have learned reading here on this forum. It has blown my mind. I have put a lot of time in reading and still have a lot more reading to go in order to understand and make sure I pull it all together.
Just take your time bro & if you have any questions just pm me anytime
Here is a novel idea... how about running a cycle that doesnt require an ai to mask the sides from all of the unused & wasted test you inject?
How exactly would you do that?
Trt level test (or a shade under) + pick-your-poison
It's amazing..... who'd have thought!
i always run .5 mg arimidex from the gate, would not Walt till week four. it makes a lot more since to me to keep your estrogen levels under control from the get go than to than to allow your body a chance to develop symptoms of gyno and then try to figure out what AI or serm, and at what dosage, is going to work for your body. now i don't kno how well your doing financially but if your anything like me most of my cash is spent before i get it and unfortunately can't afford blood work every time i want a definate answer whats going on in my body. we have to reach out and do or research. high/low estrogen will create a number of problems. if you research these symptoms it could shed some light on what changes to be looking for in your body. Thus allowing you to dose your AI of choice accordingly to what your body if telling you. good luck
Yeah, I am trying to plan it all out safely and financially. I am constantly reading and learning and will continue to before I get started. Thanks for the info.
Hello Sir,
Aromatase inhibitors might be needed if/when your body starts coverting synthetic testosterone hormone into female hormone - estrogen. It would be wrong now for someone to suggest the particular amounts/numbers that would need to be taken in the even of aromatising process. ONLY AND TRYLY way to find out the right AMOUNT to suit your body needs will be BLOOD WORK.
Considering you are planning to start your cycle with Test C, it would be a good idea to do your blood work 3 weeks in and check your female hormones - estradiol and prolactin so you can adjust your aromatase inhibitor accordingly. Also it would be great to know your hormonal reference levels in homeostasis state so you have something to compare to once you start your cycle and guess what, blood work again.
Alongside the increased estradiol levels prolactin levels may appear higher too which means you would need to implement a prolactin agonist alongside your aromatase inhibitor. However ONLY blood work will be your guide.
So that you know, if you kill your estradiol level with aromotase inhibitor to zeros, the side effects will be similar to as if it was above the reference range.
So please Sir, do not try to save your money on this and take the dosage that your gym buddy suggests. The effect of your cycle depends on this and your health of course.
Hope this helps Sir.
Regards
yeah, I gotta re-read the post about the bloodwork bible and make sure and schedule blood test throughout the cycle to make sure the levels are where they need to be. Its been a lot of reading for sure. I am still in the pre-cycle learning phase. So, as I plan and learn I end up reading more and more.
One thing that I would recommend would be if you decide to use Aromasin have Arimidex on hand as well. My experience was that I chose to use Aromasin but even though I was taking an extremely low dose I was killing my estro. It just did not agree wuth me. I switched to my Arimidex and the rest of my cycle was smooth sailing, no issues.
Its trial and error but dont skip on the blodwork. It helps immensly. Hi andw estro can feel similar.
I was worried about aromasin killing my estro after reading. Considering I ma developing a plan for just running test c at 500mg week and thats it, I think I am going with arimidex. I am working on cheaper places for bloodwork in my plan. I usually go to the local doc and get that done, but my insurance did not pay for it the last time, so I have to adjust and find somewhere that has a reasonable price. I am in the planning phase and want to make sure I get everything correct and do it based on the research.
Just try to think of everything possible. The one thing you forget is the one that will bite you in the ass. Aromasin works well for many people, it may for you as well. I dont want to discourage you from using it as we are all diffrent. My experience was such that when planning 1st cycle I bought both and Letro. I wanted all bases covered. Still have the letro but glad I didnt have to wait to switch my AI's.
Regarding bloodwork if your in the states check out privatemedlabs.com and healthonelabs.com
I use the later because for some reason the 1st one is prohibited in my state but healthone is not. Go figure. Keep asking questions, plenty of smart people here to help run a safe cycle and get great gains from it.
Thanks for the info, plan on roadvmapping a very safe and simple cycle for when I am ready. Thats definitely some good information.
Well I guess you're talking about aromasin?
There is also arimidex, which is all personal opinion on which is best for you.
As far as dosage goes that can range greatly too from person to person.
Usually arimidex is .5 mg every other day or something along that lines.
Yes, you are correct. The arimidex is much cheaper, which I like that. Been trying to read and understand which is best and study the side effects and understand how each one works to determine which is best. I like to keep it as simple as possible.
Very good in the research part if it!
I hear people like aromasin better but I have never used it because arimidex works fine for me. Just have to find the right dosage
I think I will try the armidex due to it being a base cycle as I develop a plan. Mostly because the price difference is about 35 bucks different.