posted Thu, 03/12/2015 - 08:37
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Aromasin - How low of a dose do you go?
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Hey guys,
Just going through my second PCT - everything going well.
Finished my second cycle of Test Ace at 150mg EOD - 8 weeks. First cycle was 150 Prop EOD.
Had a question for the vets. How low of a dose can you get away with your AIs?
I was feeling lethargic and my workouts began to suffer around the 3 week mark of my cycle. I got mid cycle bloods taken not long after and found out that my e2 was crashed.
I was taking 12.5mg ED of pharma Aromasin so I dropped it down to 7.25mg ED and felt a bit better but still had some low e2 symptoms for a while.
Thanks for the help!
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hey Bigs, as you can see everyone's affinity to aromatise test to estrogen happens at different levels or at all. for me I don't usually need an AI until I start administering test at or above 750mg weekly. on the rare occasion I do run a high test cycle all I need is 12.5 mgs of aromasin every 3rd day. or if I include proviron, and or masteron into my cycle no AI is needed. I also discovered that adex doesn't control estrogen for me very well either. now prolactin is a different issue altogether, I'm very sensitive, and any 19 nor compounds above a couple hundred milligrams per week I have to control with cabergoline. many blood tests, time, experience, and trials where needed to figure out what works for me. my long time training partner finished a, let's say very high test cycle, without using an AI the entire cycle, after having his blood work done he showed me that his E2 levels were slightly elevated, goes to show ya that what's good for the bull isn't always good for the lion. best wishes!
Thanks for the reply Super - very good read.
Next cycle I am going to up the test dose a bit and see what happens, going to start without running an AI and get bloods drawn a week earlier.
I usually run between 1/4 tab to a full tab every day, depending on my needs.
wvsandkrNo ones going to be able to give you a definitive answer. You'll need bloods and timr to learn your body
Some people use 25mg ed some 6.25mg ed with the same amounts of test
What were your test numbers like compared between the two cycles?
You said you had low E2 symptoms for a while but did they go away eventually at 7.25mg?
Sounds like either first cycle had bunk/underdosed aromasin but didn't matter because you do not need an AI at that dose OR you could have underdosed Test Ace and since you don't have as much test there is not as much aromatization. This is based off the fact I am assuming the first cycle went well and no crashed E2.
The only thing my test shows is that it is >1500. Got the same reading both times. I guess it's hard to tell if it's under dosed but it isn't bunk.
AI could have definitely been underdosed the first time.
Low e2 symptoms seemed to get better when I cut it down again but not for a while.
I think next cycle I will run it at 6.25 and see what bloods say.
Thanks for response!
I may be mistaken...but I believe the half life is 48hours if not a little longer. If 7.5 ED is too much try EOD.
Also, I would double check that. I'm not sure.
StevebAromasin's half life is only 24 hours. If it's needed it has to be taked daily.
Aro's half-life in males is about 8.9 hours.
StevebNo, 8 to 9 hours is when it reaches it's max strength. But it's active for up to 24 hours and sometimes a little longer.
Peak plasma is 1 hour with a half life of just under 9 hours in men. In women the half life is 24 hours.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/14671195/
Though the half life Is not overly important because of aro being a suicide AI.
^^^^^^^ that's right amigo, if I was, and I have dosed my aro daily even at min dosages I'd crash my E2. every third day is a sweet spot that keeps my estrogen in check.
StevebFor test only you might not of needed any AI. You should have got bloods done and if your estrogen was on the high end then you could add a low dose of 6mg a day. If you're using short esters less of the testosterone will convert to estrogen.
Thanks for the reply. Just from reading the threads here it seemed like 12.5mg ED was the recommended starting spot.
I ran 12.5mg on my first cycle and never crashed but it wasn't pharma grade.
I guess that's why it is important just to run test and figure out how your body reacts.