young and on point.
I'm one year in to my AAS study and just starting 2nd cycle.When all the roughnecks started blowing up and cutting at the same time. I was working out 11/2 years solid.Spending big buck's at GNC on supplements every check and eating health wise.I was stuck at 5'6, 210lb waist 38,bf 22%.just started researching gear.I learned what gear did what,how it did it,what it was made for,and what bodybuilders used it for.Learned esters ,half lifes,min and max run for each compound.Also proper injection and frequency of injection.Then I would go to different spots and cross check all of it.Now somethings will verey ,because every one is not the same.Also read article about taper off in stead of protocol pct,just like a doctor would do you of a verey heavy drug.Will most old schools want to hear that the number of people who did both said they came back better,less sides,verey if any muscle loss.No but prisoner sure broke it down nice.IF I had the patients,I'd try it.The bros at work were my age they would run test p 100mg 3x week,tren a 100mg 3xweek,anadrol 100mg ed.When I asked what they ran for pct ,they said what's that,I explained.All them even the x bodybuilder 40 year old said .said I been doing this a long time and never even took a liver aid and Dr runs blood and test said I'm as healthy as it gets.They run 12 weeks like above and take a test booster for two weeks then back at it adding deca,are eq.Will I chance it ,no way.I'll do pct proper time off,and use a-dex.In pro's eyes 2nd cycle 16% b.f. at 27.They told me no mast p,bf to high.I've done many hours of research on mast .Main reson its used at low bf is it hardens muscles ,drys you out for that cut,hard,vascular look.But I'm was not going to use it for that.I was using it or its anti e property's,and its belived to aid test fill receptors better,binding them there.Also is know to increase aggression,witch is need in the gym.Also read countless people at high bf using and dropping bf.So I'm going with science and running it,also did another no,no and don't recommend if you don't have hours of research and a pro guiding you,added tren ace.picked ace so I can stop it at first tell of negative sides and it will clear in 3 days.Plus all this is for a 6 wk cutter.So I don't have time to wait are,B.S. with long ester.So hit me with your best shot.5'6 ,185lb,34 waist ,bf 15% and dropping .Cycle T.P.125 eod,mast p100 eod,tren ace 50mg eod,var 100 mg ed.A-dex .25 on pin days ,hcg weeks 4-6 250ui 2x week ,pct clomid 100,100,50,50-nolva 40,40,20,20. Starting 2 wk on so far ,so good.Taking all liver aids ,kidney aid,blood pressure adds ,and 2gal water ed.I trust my self and knowing my body and a year and some hrs of research and science and few experts that trusted I knew what I was doing .that I will pull off a great cycle.deit is a cutter from Nate.
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I think this thread can be locked due to being an undebatable topic... the OP is just useing it to sing his own praises and beliefs (after very little real time exp running AAS)IMO,.. lets just hope and pray he gets it right fellas cos he certainly aint taking advice from anybody on here today.
no matter how much research you do and how much guidance you have remember that you ALWAYS pay to play. it doesnt matter what it is or what compound, there are things out of your control. im not here to tell you what to run or what not to run, just to tell you to remember you are still human
I'm at the end of my EQ run right now, and I love the fat burning qualities of EQ, it actually shocked me how much bodyfat it was stripping off me. My blood pressure has been fine throughout my entire cycle dosing it at 300mg e3d. EQ will be my go to compound from now on if I wanna strip bodyfat. It seems to negate the bloat I would normally get with just Test, and I dont break out as much with it in my cycle. Atleast give it a shot before you hop on that train bro, just lookin out. I wanna see you achieve your goal, but would like to see you do it safely. Think longevity.
I'm using EQ right now it hasn't fully kicked in yet but I'm on my 4th week and starting to get very hungry. Also I go to doc every month and just went this past Friday my BP was 120/80 which is perfect blood pressure. So I beg to differ what u say about EQ I know it hasn't fully kicked in yet but I front loaded and its def in me and I'm fine. I've ran tren and holy shit that raises your BP so much higher. Guess you'll have to see for yourself tho, everyone here is just trying to help you.
Time for me to bow out. I've given my insight. Good luck to you!
Anonlikewise.. this one likes to argue a lot.. good luck fella
Well right off the bat I have to ask what your first cycle was? I'm having sme trouble comprehending your post brother. But as for this second cycle ,you know that you'll get opposition on tren. It doesn't matter if you've researched for 10 years before deciding to jump in on AAS. Until you know how your body responds to other AAS (Boldenone, Nandrolone, Primobolan, masteron , etc) you shouldn't run tren. When they say "you should have a solid cycle experience before running tren" they are saying it so you can gauge what works best for you. What compound combinations at what doses and what frequency. All the reading in the world won't tell you that as all of us are different and will respond differently to these compounds. And I see you plan on running tren at a low dose. Your test dose is more than double your tren dose. You are not advanced enough for me to give you advice when to comes to what I see wrong with this cycle but I will say this. If it were me and I was looking to drop some bf and harden up (as I suspect you are) I would go Bold/Test or just Mast p/Test p along with your Var. it doesn't say how Long of a cycle this will be. If its short esters I'd go 8 weeks.
Anongood advice
Thank you sir. I'd like to add something. I made many mistakes when I started out. I was a fighter and we had no interest in building mass. We had a very specific, malicious agenda. Halo, cheque drops, tren. But once I figured out or was taught what I was doing wrong, I made great gains with test only cycles. Just because the first cycle is a test only, doesn't mean that the next one can't be. The longer you're able to make gains by keeping it simple, the better you'll do in the long run when you start introducing other compounds.
Anoni couldn't agree more. like you i made many mistakes starting out, as a result of bad cycle advice and not doing my own research. browsing this forum has taught me how to correct those mistakes and i have not been disappointed since. i also agree with manipulating test only cycles before introducing another compound. you'll see my post on massive's thread about "new first timers cycle". this was a topic he and i conversed on in PM's, and my ideal was to manipulate test only for first 3 cycles and introduce the next compound on the fourth. i am not a fan of 19nors, and i do not see them in my future.. so absolutely - keep in simple!
I read that post! Good one. People always underestimate 19-nor's and end up posting a few weeks later something along the lines of "Deca dick, please help" after he was already told not to run it. Tren can be far less forgiving depending on the individual. But you're correct, simplicity is the best tactic. Also, I am in love with Boldenone. It's much much less harsh on your body than tren, nandro or even mast. Such a great compound. It should ALWAYS be the first compound added to a test cycle when someone is ready to move on to a new compound addition.
Anonmy first addition was masteron. i'm running bold for the first time next cycle. anxious to see how it works
I forgot to say "IMO" to the previous post pertaining to eq being the first new compound introduction.
You won't be disappointed! Assuming your source is pumping quality brewski! EQ takes very long to kick in. Bold ace is readily available. If at all possible, consider a bold-A kicker instead of a front load of EQ.
AnonThat's a goo idea.. I'm sure the brew is on point, but I'm not sure which ester the eq is paired with. I'll have to double check. I'll PM you later bro to pick your brain on the kicker
You got it.