posted Mon, 02/08/2016 - 15:44
2023
Trouble recovering from cycle
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I finished my pct about 2-3 weeks ago and I feel absolutely awful. This was my 3rd cycle and I ran 500mgwk test e and 300mgwk NPP. I've always been able to recover but this time I haven't. First time I've used NPP. I have 0 sex drive and been feeling pretty down. I can't get a full erection either. Not only that but no drive in anything in my life. Girlfriend isn't too happy about it either.
My pct was perfectly fine.
50/50/50/25 clomid
40/40/20 nolva
Caber .5 mg once a week
No hcg on cycle but I thought it wouldn't be a suppressive cycle. Please help a brother out.
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Well, first of all I run a strong pct even with just some test-e and a few orals; proviron, dbol etc, which includes hcg to boot my pct. In the future I might be sticking with hmg. When I begin to dabble into the 19-nors starting with deca I am going to run a good hmg boot and then possiblly hit something like 150 clomid and 60 nolva throughout the day depending on how I feel for the first week of pct and then possibly extend my pct into 5 or 6 weeks, It is all going to depend on how I feel but I am all about recovery. Enhanced or not, recovery is the most important thing to me. Good luck to your brother!
Corey343Yeah there is no arguing with that. I'm extending my pct for a couple more weeks. I'll be running hcg in the future for sure. Thanks brother
Also, how long did you run the NPP for?
He mentioned this down the thread:
Welcome to the world of 19-Nors. Those can shut you down hard and for a long time.
Further I would have started with 100mg of Clomid and not only 50 and as MedDx mentioned, I'd have extended the pct up to 6 weeks.
But you haven't run a 19-Nor before, or have you?
Other than that, get BW done, see where you're at and adjust from there on.
First time ever using a DA like caber? What were you levels on cycle? Are you sure you haven't crashed it? Low prolactin can cause sexual dysfunction. Levels may have been ok or on low end during cycle then crashed in pct. You need bloods asap before you do anything imo. Sure pct meds were not bunk?
Corey343I guess that's a possibility. My pct is pharma grade from a well known source.
Hcg during cycle
OP explained this in his last sentence....
it would help if I could read.....thanks med.
Its all good..just helping the thread flow...
Corey343It would've been smart to run it. I probably won't be running nandrolone anytime soon. Lol
I agree. Just focus on your recovery, eat and lift. You gotta get bloods, bro, bottom line.
Standard PCT is:
-Nolva 40/40/20/20
-Clomid 100/100/50/50
You ran:
-50/50/50/25 clomid
-40/40/20 nolva
And since u were cycling a 19-nor, your PCT should have been 5-6 weeks with reference to the standard doses extending the last 1-2 weeks.
Get some BW with prolactin, like mentioned below, asap. Once u get the BW, let us know what it reveals....
Corey343So I should keep running clomid? I feel like anything past 50mg is unnecessary. And I've recovered fine with clomid at 25mg a week for 4 weeks before. I may need to run .5 mg caber a week and extend pct a couple more weeks.
Yes. And if you have nolva, use it too. What about this idea:
-clomid: 50/25
-nolva: 20/20
-caber: 0.25-0.50 e5d (for 2 wks)
How long was your cycle? Did you run the caber into PCT?
Corey34310 weeks. I stopped the NPP a little early at around week 9. I did run caber throughout. About .5 e3d
How far into PCT did u run caber?
Corey343I started it a week after my first NPP pin and ran it up until the end. Sometimes twice a week sometimes once
Any erectile issues, while using caber in the beginning of cycle?
Corey343None at all. Sex drive was insane during cycle.
Finish out with what has been mentioned in this forum and get BW. Thats all you can do!! And, share your experience with other noobs that pop up here...
You can keep running your serms if you don't feel recovered as well. Nandrolone pct is harder as I'm sure you're aware and it can just take some more time
It takes time. You just have to tough it out.
Corey343Thanks brother. I believe that's true too but there seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel. Lol. You think I should continue to run clomid for 12.5 mg Ed?
Grab some bloods
Corey343Figured that would be said first