okay so i was running NPP and decided t oswitch to the tren i may get some hell for this. but ive been on the tren/test/mast prop cycle for a week now, and aside from being a little cranky for the first hour or two after my morning pin i feel great. im pinning ED for my first week im running the tren and test at 50mg ED and the mast at 100mg ED im going to go up on the tren to 75mg ED next week and keep the test where its at. im also taking singulair everyday to and i believe this contributes to me feeling good. im checking my BP daily and im doing great 120 over 78 no changes. so far i really like it. ive put on 4 pounds (morning weight after going to the bathroom) i always gain really fast in the begining of cycles and slow quick

first time i ran tren i dosed test prop at 210/w (30mg/d) similiar to you i wanted to keep things at a maintenance level and let tren do it's work. smart move.

i tapered the tren up starting at 50mg/d ... then a week later 75mg/d.. then a few weeks later 100mg/d... didn't experience any sides, and on week 6 i blasted the dose to 150mg/d and thats when the insomnia, sweats, and deep depression set in... basically i wanted to find my sweet spot, and it is 100mg/d. won't go over that dosage anymore

goodluck man! hope you react well and it is smart you are playing it safe.

Hey did you Change your mind or you running all this
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/super-bulker-cycle

I like the ace and prop cycle better then the super bulker!
IMO
Deca is good too though, with npp sound serious !
So what's your goals with this next run your thinking about!?

Damn!

TREN MUST BE ON A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL!

Wow!

Not for me either! I like to feel good while ON!..

Keep it simple!
But best of luck and like you plan to do already use the ace and pin Ed for up to four weeks at a time! keep us posted on your cycle bro!

Gator

I'm planning on running something similar. I hear a lower dose of test with tren eliminates a lot of the side effects and general suffering associated with the compound

Tren is probably the best and worst compound iv'e ever used. It is amazing for strength gains and lean mass! The sides are different for everyone but they can sometimes be pretty extreme. For me personally it differs. I assume that has to do with my test dose, any other compounds I may be using, my AI and anti-prolactin. Iv'e experienced everything from loss of appetite, severe fatigue,insomnia, profuse sweating (not just at night) , hallucinations from lack of sleep, high blood pressure and extreme irritability. The so called tren rage is a byproduct of high BP and lack of sleep. Having high BP will make anyone irritable. You stack that on top of insomnia and you get a pretty miserable bastard after a while. So spazzing out or having a short temper is not far fetched. Throw in loss of appetite and sweats (always being hot) and you got yourself a pretty shitty situation. Using cabergoline (dostinex) in low doses may cause side effects of its own as stated below by viking. But it is still a safe bet to run it in low doses ae3d. I say that because possible prolactin sides are not a fun thing for a man. Loss of libido, and erectile dysfunction is worse than anything AAS related that I can think of. The good side,....well its fucking insane! The feed efficiency that it promotes is a beautiful trait. It was designed to give to cattle 18 weeks prior to slaughter. To pack on lean meat without feeding them any extra calories. Well it does the same in us. I'm not saying that you can eat like shit and it will be all good. You still have to stay on top of your diet. Increase water intake as well. If you are one of the ones who sweat profusely on tren, you'll dehydrate quickly if you aren't drinking enough. The strength gains are second to only HALO IMO. Any weight gained will be lean mass and more than likely you'll be able to keep gains if you are doing everything right. It's a tricky compound. You absolutely have to use caution. My suggestion (assuming you are ready to jump in) is start low and use Acetate. If you can stand the pinning, use it every day for blood plasma level stability. The more stable your levels, the less likely you'll get nasty sides. Keep it at about 50mg ed the first week. Keep your test dose the same or slightly lower. Some will argue against this but you only need a healthy test dose to maintain. Any extra and you're taking away from the tren and only creating an enviornment that is a hot bed for estro sides. Monitor everything,....change in appetite, sleep pattern, strength and weight gains, moods, blood pressure etc. There are a bunch of quality discussions on tren and some get more in depth. The test/tren fight over receptors, tren with other compounds etc. Do more homework. Good luck and be smart about it!

bro if you take tren you gonna be more shredded than a Julian salad man!(tropic thunder voice)

Just an heads up brother... running caber throughout the cycle will give you bad sides and make you feel shit and depressed like hell... some blame the tren!.. that's why its got such a bad name for sides.

That's my .02..... keep it hand bro imo use only if nessacary, others will tell a different story but at the end of the day its your choice... its that simple.

I can run upto 2grams without support and feel great.