Gyno lump issue
I was on anastrozole for awhile then I decided to switch to letro because some odd reason I got sensitivity. So I dosed letro to get rid of it. So I started the letro and the pain and sensitivity went away. I pyramided down with letro and kept a maintenance dose of a quarter of a 2.5 a week. And that keeps my estrogen in range. I checked by doing blood work. So then I decided to go back to arimidex and it seems like it doesn't work at all. Even at a dose of 1mg 3 times a week. And you can't say my ais are garbage because they are all doctor prescribed and come right out of the pharmacy. So I went back to letro and it seems now I still can't get rid of this. This has never been a issue in all my years. Does anyone know what the hell is going on here. It seems I just can't get rid of this.
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So the issue was the hgh. When I go past 4. Ius it bothers me. So I'm just gonna cruise on 3 ius for a couple years. Glad I figured that out
It happens. Even testo acts on estro receptors. Its a game of balance
I'm gona do some blood work again to see if anything is off. I chose a prolactin, estradiol test. Is there anything else I would need to test?
this a case for a endo dr . i wouldnt hesitate, or do you have a endo ? you have scripts. ,so you must have a dr ??
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thanks. , but. this is not adding up for me. , i never seen a general practitioner , (dr ) perscribe , a ai , letro ,ari , caber or brom. , or what ever. so you have to have a endo. , or if a gp is perscribing. for this issue. WHATS HIS FEELINGS ON THIS ,
sorry if im wrong but im looking out side the box , and 2 and 2 is not adding up to 4.
just my opion.
No, it is adding up just right. If the Dr had prescribed all that he would have gone back to the Dr.
It was probably prescribed by a Dr at the source's (the one without a license and working on commission), now he has come to us Internet Doctor's for help.
thats what i was getting at. , in lamans terms. , but. yes. your right.
What are you taking? What are you eating? Do you drink, smoke? Are you rubbing them/aggravating them? How big is the lump?
It's a pretty good size lump. Only eat regular food. Chicken fish ground turkey and for carbs sweet potatoes rice whole wheat pasta. I don't do drugs I don't smoke or drink. I've had a lump that has been there from my younger years of ass. It seems now it's just really aggrivated and nothing can control it
That’s annoying man I feel you. I don’t recommend people le go under the knife unless they absolutely have to. Too many of my friends have paid big $, gotten cut open, healed (process), and then were unhappy with the results. You might consider taking out the GH and zapping it with the letrozole again to shrink/try and destroy it. Then it’s estro management after. Doesn’t take much or long to do. I hate letrozole but it does the trick. I wouldn’t rely on arimi anymore. Your shots should be as often as you can tolerate, even if a 5 day ester such as cyp. For me, less frequent spikes lead to more aggravation than inj an ester like cyp eod. Good luck
Sorry I just saw you’ve been taking cyp and added the gh. Gh aggrivates my titties.
How about diet and lifestyle? Don’t rub em when you do a ‘gyno check’
You need letro and nolva. Letro rebounds. Nolva occupies nipples whilst rebound occurs preventing further gyno
Type it in on magnify glass.
I have the protocol around somewhere
I tried that. It didn't work. I have every ai and did every protocol every way possible. Nothing worked. I just can't get rid of it. I will try some caber. That's the last thing I can do. Hopefully I don't have breast cancer or something crazy.
Do not take caber unless your prolactin is high (get bloods)
If youre taking anything without evidence, take nolv
I used that protocol for an npp lump that popped up despite perfect e2 and low prolactin. Dropped down to low maintenance dose test (like 100/wk), dropped any/all other anobolics, and was using Aromasin at like 25mg/day. It did nothing but make me sleepy and achy. Jumped on your protocol and wham-o. Lump gone.
If I remember correctly (I may have freestyled the tapering, can’t remember if that was in ur protocol or me being overly cautious)
2.5 letro ed for 2 weeks
After those 2 weeks, taper down to normal AI dose while beginning nolva @ 40mg/ed for a few weeks.
I tapered off the nolva too, maybe unnessasary but I didn’t want to take any chances.
Felt like a bag of dicks the second and third week and lost strength, but it’s better than having tits.
Lucky considering your supposed to be off everything completely clear including test mate.
Its letro- 5mgs for 7 days.
Then 2.5 MG's for 14.
So 21 days letro.
At day 14 letro starts 40mgs for as long as it takes usually another 3 weeks.
Key is all steroids are cleared.
For example most cunts finish pct for DECA before its cleared.
It has to be absolutely clear system.
Its a last resort for lumps only.
Harsh yes, side affect yes.
No aromas in nothing but letro and nolva.
Its the best possible protocol out there.
Cheers
At day 14 letro starts 40 mgs for as long as it takes usually another 3 weeks.
I'm assuming that's a typo and you mean the nolva?
Good to see you back by the way.
Good pick up it should say nolvadex/ tamox
Nice. I knew I remembered something wrong. And yea I should have dropped to nothing at all. I definitely got lucky.
Hello Sir,
Just to clarify the situation, your subjective thoughts on how you feel are important, however to make any judgements you need to have it on he paper. Do yourself a a big favour and check your female hormone levels 'again' if needed. Sometimes alongside high estrogen levels, prolactin levels may go above reference range but to know this for sure, need to see blood work results. Now we have to give you suggestions based on how you are feeling and it is like pointing in to the sky. Arimidex and Letro are very powerful AIs so to make a judgement need to see ot on the paper.
Hope this helps Sir
Regards
If you don't tell us what your on or have taken we will never know. You taking deca? Maybe cabergoline will help. All depends on the compunds. Let us know. If arimadex doesn't help could it be prolactin problem?
You're no stranger to AAS, but still, answer guitar player's question below and you'll get better tailored answers to your current situation.
Speaking of the future, be sure to research primobolan, anavar, and other compounds that don't aromatize. It would be wise to avoid the big aromatizing culprits like dbol, high dosages of test, etc. Even with AI's, you're gonna be prone to gyno from now on.
Keep us posted, and good luck indeed.
What is it that you are running for gear?
I've been on a steady dose of cyp for over five years. The only difference is that I added hgh recently. 200 mg of cyp
Hgh can cause gyno and it mediates it in a way an ai cannot control
A SERM would help you stop itbgetting worse by blocking at the gland
I was thinking that's the only possibility because I've been on a trt dose of test for years. My dose keeps my test at 1100. And my estrogen is in range on a quarter letro every week. I'm very sensitive to estrogen. The only time this has happened after all these years of doing stuff is just recently. It's actually really strange. I work in the medical field and asked the doc who is in hrt what's up and she said get it biopsied. IDK it's just strange
That is solid advice from her, we can never be certain on these things. It also wouldnt be beyond the realms of reason to think that maybe your tolerance level has dropped again. ... but yeah definitely best to cover off all bases.
Are you using HCG or anything else that makes estrogens?
No hcg. The only thing different is the addition of the hgh and that's when this became an issue. So maybe it's the hgh. It's as if my body became more sensitive to certain things because I've been doing all this for years
Jeez that's not alot of test, and @ 1mg of adex eod it should be way more than enough. I suggest doing what you did with the letro before to get rid of the lump before it becomes perminant. I doubt hgh would be the culprit here but I wouldn't be amazed if something stems from that. When you do get rid of the lumps try dumping the gh for a week and see if things smooth out.