posted Tue, 09/04/2012 - 07:25
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I just spoke with someone who claims to have tren suspension. This is a first for me! Sounds wicked but I'm skeptical. Anyone heard of or used tren no ester? I've seen boldenone suspension and nandro suspension recently but never tren.
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Yeah as someone else said, there's a suspension for everything. But there's a reason why something like Boldenone is only sold with the Undecylenate ester attached: because the other esters hurt like a bitch!
I can't imagine what BNE would do to your RBC.
^agreed Nitti
And damn how much water would you hold with nandrolone no ester!
Shits crazy, just because we can doesn't mean we always should
NPP and Deca are gtg why change what's already great!
And Tren Ace seems to be the king shit so Tren suspension WOW can only imagine!
I think I would get a bloody nose after each shot lol.
There is a product called "androxine" contains trenbolone base á 50mg/ml made by alpha pharma.
To answer your actual question, yes tren suspension is very real. In fact, every compound has a supension (base w/o ester) from tren to test to primo to nandralone to mast and so on. the question is whether or not they can get the suspensions to hold and not cause extreme pain. I do know of a source who has them all on here and i have done his test and tren suspension and both were amazing compounds.
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I would like to know about these rarities!
Figure it out by your description on the profile
^sicknick
Damn homie your beasting on some heavy AAS bro! I was like damn at all the jugs in your pictures ! Props bro!
if your getting extreme pain from anything with no ester, couldnt you just dilute it with sterile filtered oil, and boom problem solved?
Negative. Base esters except for test are going to be suspenions not solutions meaning water based not oil based. It would look milky white like winstrol. The reason it hurts is because you are absorbing the water based solution before the base compiund itself. Its not that bad, tolerable but you must shoot 2x a day.
Buildbigger86The new tren base that was just dropped by our number 1 man. Is tren base with oil though.
zewi“Trenbolone Cough” differs from user to user. Some have a high bloodflow in their buttcheeks, wich sometimes increases with prolonged AAS use. You’ll notice it if you bleed very often after an injection. I.m.o. those people are more predisposed to “tren cough” There are two different coughs, the notorious hard and uncontrolable one that starts right after or during injection and a milder controlable one that is just irritating. Some people claim that they taste a chemical, kinda methanol/solvent. If you pierce a vein or inject very close to a vein the trenbolone solution migrates up into your bloodstream and, within seconds the solution hit the lungs, the lungs react like you inhaled a toxin like b.e. smoke or an irritating chemical, and they try to expel it out by coughing. The problem is this is impossible because the irritation comes from the inside and leaves the body through the lungs/mouth.
Some users claim it is possible to surpress the cough by immmidiately start to inhale-exhale small amounts of air through the mouth, like you’re hyperventilating or like women do to surpress the contractions during labour. Some also claim that the short estered acetate is more irritating then the longer estered enanthate or hydrohexacarbenzylcarbonate (parabolan) the last one also gives a kinda metallic taste in the mouth immidiatly after injection.
Personally I believe it’s the trenbolone molecule (wich differs from most steroid molecules) causes the irritation in the lungs, not the solvents like benzyl alcohol or benzyl benzoate as many believe. The solvents are present in other injectable steroids and nobody complaints about heavy coughing with those compounds.
I’ve read an interesting theory ( i don't agree with it by the way 8) ) about the tren cough and the fat burning capacity wich caused Trenbolone to be nicked as “the poor mans growth hormone”:
Tren- Fat burning and "Tren cough" both from prostaglandin metabolization by pheedo
It's been widely disussed of Trens fat burning properties through rises in IGF and Prostaglandins. While IGF is a fairly well known substance in the bodybuilding world today, prostaglandins are fairly unknown in terms of formation and roles in the body.
So below, a brief dicription of prostoglandins and their role in fat burning, "fina cough", and why a person going through Tren administration can experience it's fat burning effects without the dreaded "Cough"
The term prostaglandin comes from the word-Prostate. The first prostoglandins were first dicovered in semen about the mid 1930's and it was thought that prostaglandins were made from the prostate. Since this time, it has been dicovered that most prostaglandins are not even constructed in the prostate.
Prostaglandins are made by two different pathways(Cyclooxygenase and Lipoxygenase), and considering prostaglandins are a group of about 20 lipid cells, they have contrary function; responsible for stimulating as well as alleviating inflammation(Inflammation stimulation is the rapid metabolism of them expelled through the bronchials), regulate blood flow to particular organs, control ion transport across membranes, modulate synaptic transmission, induce sleep, mediate lipid release, and regulate metabolism is various tissue.
Prostaglandins are synthesized from arachidonate(Lipoxygenase which catalyze the dioxygenation of polyunsaturated fatty acids) in the cell membrane by the action of phospholipase A2. Cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways, compete with one another to form prostaglandins(as well as thromboxane or leukotriene-leukotriene being a bronchial stimulator),
In the cyclooxygenase pathway, the prostaglandins D, E and F plus thromboxane and prostacyclin are made. Thromboxanes are made in platelets and cause constriction of vascular smooth muscle and platelet aggregation
Leukotrienes are made in leukocytes and macrophages via the lipoxygenase pathway. They are potent constrictors of the bronchial airways. They are also important in inflammation and hypersensitivity reactions as they increase vascular permeability.
Being that prostaglandins from either pathway, are still fatty acids of a group, they mediate lipid release and controll tissue metabolization, so fat burning is a luxerry of either pathway of formation. It's the pathway from which they are constructed that dictates "fina cough". As prostaglandins made from the Cyclooxygenase pathway dictate muscle constriction and platlet aggregation, and the Lipoxygenase pathway dictates bronchial constriction(the main form of expulsion)
Refs:
Cackatoo Press
Columbia Encyclopedia 6th Edition
Science Daily Magazine
Thank you Zewi. As usual on top of shit!
zewiI try..
I know a guy who practically drops to his knees about every 3rd or 4th injection of Tren A. The tightening of the lungs and instant cough. I can't imagine Tren suspension going into his quad.
I have a ritual now! When I pin tren a, I lay pillows out all around me, I hook up grannys oxygen tank, close my eyes and brace for the hell fire! Just about every pin I get the horrible ,suffocating feeling accompanied by a head rush and the taste of pennies in my mouth. Love it! Lol
I sit in a chair with a cold glass of ice water to sip on.
I am so used to it that I actually look forward to it. I feel like my tren isn't working if I don't get it. Mind fuck
Here is what I think and I know you think its bull shit but if I pin with a larger sized needle(23 g) and push plunger in very slow it doesn't make me cough. I feel it slightly and no cough. I think the smaller sized needles go slower but the speed the liquid comes out of the needle is faster. Less volume faster rate. My thought.
Actually I think you're right. I purposely use 25g pins for injecting larger amounts of oil. Tren is no different. It eases up the chest tension a bit but doesn't completely get rid of it. But yes, slower is better
do people get tren cough with tren only made with fina or can it happen with tren made with powder too?
It's more prominent with tren a! I would say fina is a bigger culprit. It always was for me. I am running tren e for the first time and it's not nearly as bad. But yes I'd say fina is worse
Bam! Down for the count
Can a mod delete this. I posted two identical threads by accident. iPhone sucks
Anonsure I ll get right on it... DOH!!!!
Ahahahahaha if I don't laugh I'm Gunna get sad. :-(