Tren A & prolactin
I am getting ready to run a pretty mild Test E/Tren A cycle that a ran previously and had some good results.
Last cycle was 100/100 split up over 3xweek. I used Anastrozole and Prami to deal with E2 and Progesterone. I had a few undesirable sides from the Prami with blurry Vision, so I am looking for an alternate method to control Progesterone. I would prefer to not use Caber at this point.
This Cycle I am going to up the dose to 150/150 a week split up over 3 ins per week almost EOD. I would like to avoid using Prami and try using an OTC Dopadex to help with the rise in progesterone. Of course I will keep E2 in check, so this in itself should help to minimize the Progesterone issues. Question is, do you think the Dopadex will be sufficient with the Tren dose, or should I use Prami and just try a lower dose?
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I will give Prami another go and keep the dose way down and see how that works.
Look into vitamin b6 and it's effects on inhibiting and lowering prolactin. Lot of medical studies to back it up. Think the dose 200mg ed
RustyhookerLook at be causing permanent nerve damage. Any medical site shows that info.
Look up medical sites for therapy doses of caber. It'll blow your socks off.
Damn up to 6mgs ed of caber. Thats insane!!
And ya they show toxicity above something like 200-300mgs ed. But at that dose it seems to do a good job of keeping prolactin in check. Lot of guys out there use it with success on tren and deca.
RustyhookerThat dose of caber compared to our cycle of caber. Then add in or gas benefits and no prolactin issues
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Risk permanent nerve damage?
Well i get a script of prami every month from cvs for like 3 bucks so i dont mess with either. Lot of studies showing heart valve damage with caber, but maybe thats only with those huge doses and were safe using the small .5mgs twice a week. My theory is take the least amount of everything possible to get the best effects. That goes for both gear and ancillaries. Dont take shit just because. If you need it you take it if you dont you dont. But thats just my view.
RustyhookerAgree!!!
Could not agree more, take as little as possible and minimize the sides.
in order for it to work you have to upwards of 750+ and at those doses it makes you alittle sick
Anything over 200 and you risk brain toxicity. But I've known people to take 800 for months and not have problems. The 700+ doses are typically used in people who are already experincing gyno and need to rapidly lower prolactin levels. Usually 800mg for a few days does the trick. 200-300 is a preventive dose and a lot of medical studies show fdramatic decrease in prolactin levels and increase in g levels which is alwuys nice.
I am on 450 a day with no sides besides glow in the dark piss added with the prami and the most I ever got was the infamous itchy nipples that I cured by upping my dose of adex from .20 a day to .25. Any more then that and it becomes toxic to the point of drain bamage
Meant to say increase in gh levels. And ya man it works well for a lot of people.
I use or used prami and the highest I went was .3 every night. it helped out with the insomnia because it would knock me out. I did have some real.strange dreams but that was it. When I tried straigut caber I got no sleep at night and was sweating severely. I still have both just in case but prami is my favorite. Anything over .3 and im sick to my stomach.
Well,
I am old dude (47) who has been on TRT (100mg test c per week) for the past three years with the one cycle of test/tren listed above, and one cycle of test C at 300mg a week for 12 weeks. I felt really good through that first test/tren cycle, put on some good size and leaned up a bit as well, so I thought I would give it another go and up it just a little bit to experiment and see how it goes.
I would appreciate your thought on why you feel this is not good?
RustyhookerYou could do better with less sides on just test, var. It's all about foods.
Also tren a lives a day. So pins are daily. Your doses are extremely high as well. Good tren at that dose would rear it's ugly head quickly.
Joint groups...beginning cycles. Read thoroughly. Try the simple approach. Unless you're on stage, avoid nasty sides like jail.
Rusty,
I appreciate your response and looking out for my health, but I think you may have misunderstood my previous post, looks like I did not do a very good job of describing the cycle.
I will be pinning EOD 50mg test and 50mg tren for a total of about 150mg test and 150mg Tren per week. Do you still believe this is too high of a dose?
I get the diet comment, my diet is pretty clean, my current BF is 9%, not as lean as a lot of you pros, but I am 47, it takes a pretty good effort as my age to continue to lean out,
What do you mean nasty sides like jail? I don't get it?
LMAO nasty sides like jail, surprise morning sex is the greatest...unless you are in jail.
RustyhookerWhat's your priors? Cycle isn't good at all.
caber is where its at man
I was running .50mg EOD. I have done some reading on Prami, and I think This may have been my problem. Most suggest a slow steady increase with use ED. Caber pharma grade is just to dang hard to find, that's the only reason.
Only issue I had on were the typical insomnia and night sweats, nothing to severe. I only ran the cycle for 8 weeks. I started Prami two weeks in before I had any real Prolactin issues, so I really do not know how I would react...
pharma grade caber is easier to find then you may think
AnonThat's what I was thinking too...
AnonYeah from what I know with p rami u really gotta start low and taper
AnonI would not use anything over the counter to help with prolactin. How much Prami were you running? Why don't you want to use caber? Did you have any issues on cycle? Bloodwork?