thefusion's picture
thefusion
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1996

TESTOSTERONE, king of mass??

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I've heard that when it comes to sheer mass gains there is no injectable steroid that can beat testosterone (given appropriate diet etc).

That other steroids are only added in order to lower side effects that an otherwise high test only cycle would bring; or for added effects like hardness (mast), joint support (deca), vascularity (eq) and strength (tren).

As for pure size no stack can pack on mass like test only at equal total mgs. So by this theory 1g test would be superior to 500mg test + 500mg {deca/EQ} when it comes to pure mass gain.

Anyone have experience with this?

j223's picture

tren is definitely NOT the best strength drug. That's more like deca, anavar, dbol and testosterone that gives you strength.

test is still king for mass and strength. All of them will give size, tren, eq, deca but the side effects will be different depending on your chemistry. Some people can't take EQ because it makes their blood too thick. Some can't take tren because too many side effects. For me deca is extremely harsh and gives worse side effects than any other steroids. Some people can run deca and get zero sides.

But test only you can't go wrong. Or test/eq is a good stack too I like that one just gotta give it time

Dickkhead's picture

No bro. This is why cycle design is such an advanced subject and why so many books have been written about steroid profiles and stacks and cycle design. A pure Test cycle is not a replacement for a classic Test/Deca/dBol cycle in terms of potency on a gram per gram basis and mass gaining capability. The compounds work synergistically in a stack with an effect way beyond what each of the compounds alone could yield or each simply added together could produce. Most steroids added into any stack are not put there to "lower side effects" of anything - in general. There are exceptions - you may run Proviron, for example, to assist in estrogen reduction (although it's capability to increase free Test would be why I would use it). Each of the compounds is noted for producing certain effects as you wrote - vascularity, hardness, etc.

But, in the end, we don't build mass best by just using more and more Testosterone in a cycle. If that were the case, life would be easy!!! There are folks on EROIDS that are masters in cycle design - I would go to them if I were planning on something I've never done before. But, as far as what I just wrote, I'm certain of that much.

JRTX956's picture

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