posted Wed, 10/02/2013 - 12:04
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+ 2 TEST E/C VS SUSTANON?!?!
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So i keep hearing alot lately that Sustanon will blow u the fuck up and this and that...but is it really that big a difference in "gains" than Test E or C?!
IMO "TEST IS TEST" but I wanna know what ma bros think. Lets hear it...
Shit maybe i should switch to Sust?.lol
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TEST HEP is the way to go! ; )
....if u can find it doe.
Ive used them all and you really cant go wrong with ANY of those choices.
My easly cycles were SUST only cycles and I made awesome gains.
i say try it. i had picked some up myself cause i heard same things. some people love sust to bulk. i am a big believer in trying things after ive researched enough.
Sustanon is a Test delivery system. So when you say Test is Test is Test? For the short answer yes, but why does Sustanon work so well for so many people? because it's a bridgeable ester of test and it has a trigger effect. The shorter ester is always going to get a faster delivery in blood plasma levels. along with the other esters kicking in as the ester delivers it to the bloodstream. That's why people take TNE test with no ester right before the gym to get that immediate boost. Try taking test cypionate before a work out......exactly. the esters or lack of them all have their place. My best bulking was done with a Sustanon. kickstart then swapping over to a longer ester. Part of it I think has to do with the fact sustanon has a rap for higher estrogen due to the shorter esters and injection period. But you NEED estrogen to grow it's part of that building block and that watery look helping shuttle water and nutrients into the muscle to grow and repair.....How many pro's do you know off season that worry about not having their abs in and crying about their lean gains.
phil113kgSust in my part of the world is popular and widely used do to the fact that it builds up faster than the slower versions E/C. But they didn't know how to use it properly thinking that it can be used as the E/C version. When I tell them that it is best used E3D they will get this lost look in their eyes. They failed to realize that their pin timing evolved around that faster ester in the mixture. Keeping it stable in the blood is the key to good clean gains. I prefer the E/C versions during a bulking season because it is easier to keep stable without having to pin as often.
Personal choice. Depending on the cycle I sometimes like a full spectrum if esters so I run test e/c AND sust. Only tend to do this on bulkers.
IMO I get more out of the blends. It might be placebo but i feel i sense the short esters the day I pin and feel more push in the gym.
I am the same way bro. I love the feeling I get from prop. I throw at least 50mg of prop with my sust 250 on every shot because of the feeling!!
You are correct test is test and everyone has there own favorite, it comes down to personal preference. Try it out maybe you will fall in love with it like a few of my boys. As for me ill take prop over any other ester.
MetalgearYea prop holds more True Test than any other ester.
The heavier the ester the less Test it holds if we compare: Test P 100mg vs. Test Cyp 100mg
AnonMaybe that why prop is my fav ;)
MetalgearYea im using it now for cutting. And i have fallen in love with jabbing myself eod
But do u think its good for a bulk?
Being that the half life is short would we need to inject high amounts of Test prop every other day to obtain a higher anabolic threshold as we could with 600mg of test cyp?
AnonYou can use any test for a bulk or cutting cycle ,because your diet and training will dictate your results. Cardio and a calorie deficit,while eating clean of course, will help you cut on any compound. People mainly use test p in a cutter because you need to have test as a base,and prop will cause the least amount of water retention. Another reason people use test p for cutting is because cutting cycles are usually shorter, 8-10 weeks on average. You want something that kicks in right a way.Bulking cycles tend to be longer. who really wants to pin eod for 12-18 weeks. All that pin can take a toll on you and cause scar tissue.
MetalgearNice
Great info (as always)! I think people get trapped into thinking you can only use certain substances for bulking, cutting, etc. It's all about your diet and how you use your gear. Great reminder.
AnonYup, i mean there are compounds that could be a better choice for your goals but ultimately its up to you to make it happen
Ahhh you prop whore you.lol...but Yeah true that. It does come down to personal preference.. Also cost too imo. I will try it out one of these days fo sho.