posted Fri, 11/04/2016 - 06:30
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Test E vs Test Cyp
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Can anyone give me any info on why people prefer test e to cyp. I can't understand it personally. I mean yes it's a longer half life (I believe 14 days instead of 12) but it's been the only test that ever caused me to have any gyno issues. Well that plus a lack of knowledge of the necessity and proper usage of AI's but that's another lesson I'm had to learn the hard way. So I guess my questions are as follows:
- Besides the half life is there any real differences?
- Why do les Test E seem to trump all?
- Is there a strategic way of implementing the Test E to utilize the extra few days on the half life to your advantage?
I look forward to hearing your answers gents!
Regards,
Ragz
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For me I prefer test C but that is mostly just because it come in 200 instead of 250. I also have never had PIP from test C for some reason and have with Test E.
I always preferred Cyp which I've actually also had at 300 mg/mL at its highest but it would crash so I'd have to warm it up and still no pip. I'm pretty sure if it'd fall out in the oil it'll do so in the muscle as well but idk. Will be using pharma grade cyp from here on out. Expensive as hell but everyone says its worth it so why not.
Most people would never be able to differentiate one from the other especially if your injecting at least every 5-7 days.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/test-esthers-...
A nice explanation of the test chains, test cyp's halflife is 2.5 days longer then enanthate, thats your difference. Other then that is marketing. Enanthate has a few more milligrams of test then cyp. Cyp has a slower release rate then enathate. Take your pick, they both do the same thing.
Anyone that has tried both would know there is almost no difference. If injected 2 x week you wouldn't imo the difference. I've run both and couldn't find any noticeable differences. If the half-life is really noticeably different the only way to really find out would be to inject 500 MG at once and then don't take another shot until you feel it drop off and you count the days. Then switch off to the next testosterone and do the same thing. So for example one you might say I start to feel different bye Day five and another one day six or seven perhaps. But like I said if injected twice a week I don't believe anyone could find any difference.
Slightly off-topic but I do agree with others here that ugl compared to Pharma is a big difference. I know this because I get 200mg a week as a prescription. My 200mg shot feels identical to most ugl labs at 375mg.
MegamusclemanA lot of ppl can't see a big difference between the two. Me myself The only difference between the two is I put on a lot of water when on Test E that really it out side of that I get the same effect to the t.
and I put on more water is with test cyp
Testrogen_PropC...Test E and Test C is like metric measurement vs "standard", its just from geographic location.
The difference between the two esters is too marginal to even legitimately pick one over the other. For our intents and purposes you can basically look at them as being the same.
Which do you prefer? Have you noticed any difference between the results time on? I prefer TC but recently tried TE and I thought it gave me a bit of more drive in the gym but Ice always chosen TC
Testrogen_PropC...Honestly I prefer both lol. No I haven't noticed one to be better for results, but what I do like to do is switch esters from time to time. I seem to get less of a plateau effect when I do so.
But as far as which I like better....honestly there's not enough difference for me to pick one. I've switched from Cyp to E and got instant benefits and I've switched from E back to Cyp and got instant benefits. But I think that has more to do with my body responding to the different manufacturers raws than it does the ester itself. That's my educated guess on it anyways.
RustyhookerLocation bro. When I was young there was no ugl . The pharmacy test here was cyp. Europe used enth. Virtually no difference other than half life. Ive got no doubts that ugl cyp/enth is simply what arrived and sticker was applied
Man I've been saying that for years! The user would never know the difference if it weren't labeled... But ask around and everyone will swear by one or the other. I've used both for years and have noticed zero difference unless it was pharma vs ugl.
RustyhookerOnline here you could see folks get excited on one over the other. If brewer runs it overdosed, might have lil more bang. But it goes back to run bloods and keep up on quality sources.
Probably just thinking too much into it honestly. I personally have never really understood using ridiculous test concentrations and have never exceeded 500-600 mg of and test but I can do as little as 300 mg/wk of test e and like clockwork I had all kinds of issues but did 600 of cyp with barely so much as a zit. However y'all have more experience so I gotta take your word for it.
RustyhookerChecking bloods will help a lot. If my estro gets a lil funky I'll get a few zits. It'll also help in which brands you choose. If 500mg a week and your bloods barely hit 1800....you know it's low on hormones. It's a lotta trial and error at times but eroids has been tremendous in keeping sources in check.
--note, no source or brand chat.
I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say source or brand. I saw a post saying the same thing earlier but wasn't able to notice it in that persons either. I'll send you a FR and if you could pm me what you're referring to I'd greatly appreciate it so I don't do it again!
RustyhookerSorry bro....i noted that so you don't post brands and get bonked. You did nothing wrong. Just posted so you or anyone else would error. Newbs will pop in just to post their favorite brand occasionally
Test is Test...
The difference between E and Cyp are so little you wouldn't notice it.
But if you're hell bent on getting your levels the same as Test Cyp you could plot it out on steroidcalc.com
TestC is Americas version of TestE. Small molecular difference, but in reality basically the same. Personal preference IMO.
Rustyhooker^^^^^sorry. I didnt read first. On point!
Thats correct bro.................... THE only reason of choice between US and EU countries.
Back in the day i used to get great results from testosterone Heptalyte..... used largely in France and Belgium i believe, the masses believe it is very much similar to E and C but has a two day extra half life. ok so thats the science ..... but i swear i had better results and a strionger "test" feel from this than any other test derivative i have used to this day.
Hard to source now but i encourage anyone who fancies trying it out to do so...... best long estered test ever created in my honest opinion. (smooth tooo)
I mean I can understand that however I do not hear of people using cyp as often as enanthate and I'm sure there's a good reason. I mean if it was one or 2 people that'd be one thing but when it's the overall majority it makes me wonder why.
Cyp is generally brewed @200mg/ml max........... enanthate can be brewed in excess of 500mg/ml..... so for those that want high volume from less pinning enanthate is the way they swing imo.
Good pharma cyp is superb by the way.............. in fact! UNBEATABLE.
I have a buddy who swears by it. He gets pharma cyp/prop blend at around 300 mg/mL and pharma deca 200 and he swears that he gets better results from .5 mL of pharma than a full mL of UGL. Maybe it's not all in his head but holy hell is it expensive!
yeah i feel the same way about pharma............. but there is good UGL gear out there, its just a matter of finding it then hoping the source is not going south shortly...... like they do on a regular basis.
even when i have used really high volumes of test (excess of 3 grams at times) i rarely went with high mg/ml gear due to the expected high discomfort from high hormone and little carrier........ the few times i have used high MG gear i cut it with Equipoise to make it a little smoother.
Btw bro I just got the pricing on a full cycle of test cyp, deca, aromasin, hcg, clomid and nolva thats all american pharma and the price difference is ridiculous. Upwards of $500 to go legit and thats only 1 vial of each! I'll be getting it end of december but won't be running anything until probably next summer after giving my body some time off and getting my nutrition down.
I'm gonna do 1 bulk and 1 cutting cycle running some food to see what that's like when it's done right. Had Mawka square me away as far as macros are concerned so I'll be g2g.
Btw not sure if putting the cost of the gear is a violation so please let me know if i it and I'll edit it out!
Yea I mean even If you went with 20-22% BB and used all EO there's only so much you can do at higher concentrations. That topic is a little more within my wheelhouse. Before the military I studied chemistry but unfortunately I'm pretty sure I can't discuss that topic anywhere on this site lol.
I believe I had a good source. He always slightly overdosed his gear because every chinaman says they have 90% purity and you could do a rough melting point test to get an idea of where you're at but nonetheless his old lady got tired of him brewing and so he stopped.