posted Wed, 02/01/2012 - 18:42
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Hey let's say I start test e once a week at oly 250 mg a week.
Will it be very obv I'm on test to like everyone ... Will my face puff up... Very important please let me know.
Also test e at 250 is enough for a beginner right. Test e alone, no Oral.
Thanks for your advice and help
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it won't be obvious to everyone at 250mg. you should get some acne (face, neck, and def back and shoulders) its a good sign of real test. 250mg of REAL test is enough to get results. many people say 500 - 600 mg of test for first cycle. this is cuz of so much underdosed gear.
my hrt test dose is 150mg a week. this puts me at 1,081. I use pharma grade test. i am gaining weight and strength on this does but will blast higher at 350 to 400mg a week.
I think the core issue is that you want a little boost, but it's honestly not worth the risk.
BTW, you can get good results on 250mg. 500mg will raise your test more, so you should be able to get better results BUT more test is also more risk for sides. On that front, you have to do what you are comfortable with.
When I was 27, my natty test was 900-1000 range (blood test result). I felt great all the time, and didn't feel the need for AAS.
So, here are some reference points to help you with dosing (not my numbers, others posted):
1) 75mg Test C E3D = 1172 ng/dL test (don't know the user's weight)
2) 250mg Test E EW = 1480 ng/dL test (30 yr old male, 5'11" 155lbs, 7% BF before cycle)
3) http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-q-a/steroid-cycles/testosterone
300mg EW = 1345 ng/dL, 600 EW = 2370 ng/dL
Your natural levels (my guess is 800-1000 range) should be really good. $45 blood test will let you know. You can grow on that level. You can grow on 250mg EW (using the 3 reference above), and of course you'll grow on more than that.
And when I say grow, that means DIET and EXERCISE are your primary focus in support of the hormone.
Again, the more test, the more potential for sides, including shutdown and gyno. Is it worth it when you test natty is already high?
Finally, know that some folks don't respond well to test, so there is NO "NO RISK" SOLUTION. Here is an example:
"even at 200mg a week I get horrible acne on my shoulders only. Second, even at 200mg a week the test shuts me down enough to where PCT is a struggle."
I did var only in the past, and it was largely a waste. PCT was easy and my natty test rebounded fully for me, but I didn't keep gains and overall the cycle was sloppy.
Ask yourself what you are willing to risk. Yes Test is Best. Is AAS REALLY worth it for you?
23 isn't that young to start juicing cmon. I wanted to do an anavar only cycle and every one told me add test
"I wanted to do an anavar only cycle"
BOOM! Case and point!
Bro, not only are you not od enough (you have plenty of natty yrs left) but you do not have the knowledge nor background to begin AAS... Not that that is going to stop you brcause unfortunately one of the side effects of being to young is the delusion that you are not despite what 95% of the experinced users will tell you
No need for Clomid . Or hcg???
Im 23
I'm 6 foot 1 ,
218 lbs
14% bf
Lifting 4 yrs
I want to loose bf with help of diet and Cardio/training
Does this look good
Weeks 1-10: 250 mg Testosterone Enanthate a week
Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
PCT starts week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 10mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
o.25mg of adex 3x a week shoulkd be plenty with only only 250mg test
You have to bring stats to the table bro. If you want help from people here who know what they are talking about, then you gotta give them stuff to work off of.
I have always heard 300mg was the magic starting point but when I started TRT I was on 150mg a week and I was able to feel it (made me want to run more lOL) so you will feel it if your test is quality gear make sure you have some Adex on hand for any sings of gyno (will be very mild but still) and make sure you have your PCT on hand before you start
That's a pretty low dose of test so I doubt it'd be obvious to anyone that you were on anything. For reference, 250 mgs per week is a dose similar to what doctors prescribe for trt. A good beginners cycle usually consists of Test E @ 500 mg per week for 12 weeks or so. PCT and AI are necessities as well. Like the gentlemen above me said, you should do ample research before even considering taking gear, sorry should have mentioned that before anything else.
I have arimadex proviron and Nola and hcg, I do not have Clomid tho
What're your stats bro (age, height, weight, body fat, years training)?
Just posted it... What do u think
Well I agree with everything CAhardcore said. It would be in your best interest to wait a couple more years before beginning on anything. You might want to read up on the effects steroids have on your endocrine system, and you'll realize that a lot of what you have outlined here is not in your best interest health wise. If you are truly determined to use gear though nothing we say will stop you, and you might as well do it right. As far the cycle above, I'd run the Test @ 500 mgs a week, like I said before 250 mgs is pretty low dose and the effects will be minimal, and as CA said it would shut down your natural test production at the expense of giving you minor results. I'd run the test at 12 weeks personally, it's a long estered steroid, and takes a while to fully get in your system. You may not feel the full effects of it until 8 weeks, which at 10 weeks would only leave you with 2 weeks of test at full blast. Your dose of Adex is too high, unless you feel that you will be prone to estrogen related sides. I wouldn't exceed 1 mg a week personally, you could do .5 mgs 2x a week.
Would it be safer to do an anavar only cycle?
waste of money.
If you how anavar interacted with your body and hpta you wouldnt even have to ask that you need to know how these things effect the body before you even think of taking anything
No, that would be much worse actually. Oral only cycles are a bad idea.
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Once again I'm lost
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Once again I'm lost
Haha, just wait two years bro. At 23 you should have plenty of testosterone in your system, and should be able to make adequate gains with a proper workout regimen and diet. I got started on AAS young, and I can tell you, in retrospect, I wish I had waited. So that's really the best advice I can give you man, but good luck with whatever decision you choose.
I will say this though man, the one thing I don't regret is that I read up on AAS religiously before I took anything because I knew that I was dealing with some serious shit. It's a little disconcerting that you're so determined to use AAS with such poor foundational knowledge of the subject. The guys here have your best interest in mind, even if you don't. You should heed their advice, and take advantage of the fact that you're still young before you start meddling in AAS. Not trying to lecture or anything, just trying to help brother, good luck.