Test E 500 - PIP . help. yes it fucking hurts.
guys, I read bigbadbrad's post on Test Prop and PIP and your recs (thank you) but wanted to see if there was anything specific or different between experience on Test Prop and Test E -- need some help.
so I thought I'd be a big boy and try going from Test E 250 to Test E 500 and give my spring cycle a jump. I am experienced but not a gorilla.
with that said, I started with small (150) shot of Test E - hurt a little, etc. - but then rotated, and did my second or third injection into my delts - went like up to 200mg - and it fucking killed. so my arm swole up, red, hard, etc. -
so realizing that I didn't sleep for fucking week and was in pain, I started rotating again ass, ass, delt, delt, etc. and doing smaller doses.
I need help and ideas on how to better tolerate the Test E at 500 and any ideas? Do I need to do 100 EOD? - I dont really want to do three or four injects a week - but twice a week at 250 is killing me.
help. Thanks men!
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ray3801It might be more a reaction to the high % of EO in the gear. Your body might not get along with it. Have you ever done 2cc's of Test E 250 made with GSO?
You can try and warm the injection site before and after.. I hear it helps.
Some people advise against massaging the injection spot after the injection (something about pushing the oil up to shallow?) but I swear by it, when I'm in a rush and skip it I always get PIP the next day. I'm not talking about a heavy sports massage, just lightly rub the area (I guess to help spread the oil) or even better get your girlfriend too.
Most of all keep steady and everything sterile to minimise chances of infection and muscle damage.
Best of luck with the cycle mate!
no way around it man .. higher the concentration ..especially that high cramed in per ml is gonna hurt no mater what.
Thanks - that's what I was thinking too - and I am 5'8, 180 - so not a huge base to work off of. I moved up to 500 over 12 weeks to try to get 10 more solid, permanent pounds on. 5'8, 190. All the guys here say eat more eat more eat more---- I know - it's just hard. no complaining though! love the board and the guys on here - great site.
Thanks guys. Really appreciate the feedback. I have to do something ---- looking to put on 10 pounds but my workouts are hindered by the swelling and pain. which sucks.... first cycle this really happened to me actually - test, test250, sust, test e, winny, etc. etc. - very frustrating.
I always heat the oil pre injection to so it flows much easier also maybe your injecting to fast. If there is a small knot it's build up of oil from Injecting to fast brother.Also there is always the chance your allergic to the oil the gear is in. So check all side of the fence because if u are allergic you don't want to keep hitting yourself like that. So try heating the oil preinjection and slowly Injecting if not already at like 1 min a half mil is what I do. I set a timer and go by it brother and sometimes the amount of oil I still get knots but with small amounts I'm good and I use test prop which is pip heaven for most but I only get pip with it on tri days. So be safe check all sides and have fun brother but safe first.
I always find pinning higher mg gear in bigger muscles works better for me
Cut the gear with eo or gso.
Or just pin 2cc of test 250
I had a similar problem with test 400. Me and a few buddys did some research on the pain and how to better it and what we found we tried and it worked like a charm. Now what we did was picked a source to get a sterile sealed vile and some grape seed oil. Put the grape seed oil in the vial and bake at 275 for 20 min with a needle in the seal so it can breath. After 20 min. Let it cool down a bit and pull the pin out of the top and there ya go. Cut your test with it. We cut it 1:1 (1cc test and 1cc oil) and had zero pain. Also if you choose not to cut it. We found ib profin works awesome for helping with pain in swelling from pip. Hope this helps bro.
oh, and I went to 100 shot in my ass and it is ok, (small inject) but still feels like it is having a hard time dissolving into the muscle... this is good stuff from domesticx - never had ANY problems with his gear which is top notch. Thanks.