Sus injection frequency... why so much controversy???
I keep reading threads here and on other sites that beat this topic to death, so I am loathe to do the same. However, I do question the conventional wisdom surrounding test ester blends and injection frequency.
Typical Bro science states that one has to inject EOD to fully use the prop ester.
Standard Sus:
30 mg testosterone propionate 2 days
60 mg testosterone phenylpropionate 4 days
60 mg testosterone isocaproate 9 days
100 mg testosterone decanoate 14 days
(Any many UGLs are upping the mgs to 400/500, putting that prop/pp mix somewhere around 150mg)
So at 2 days, you have 15mg test as prop left along with approx 45mg of test as pp, and the iso and deca have hardly been touched.
At day 4 you have 7.5mg of test as prop with 30mg of test as pp, approx 45 mg of test as iso and deca still hardly touched.
So why are injections every 3.5 days seen as "wasting test prop?" The prop went active, then the pp went active, then the iso, you get the point.
I would understand if the blend was not all test. For example, suppose it was test p and eq in a blend, then yeah... injections every 3.5 days would mean your test levels would never be stable. With sus though this is not the case. It is all test, when test prop starts to half, test pp is there to pick up the slack. When the pp halves, iso is there, and so on.
So what I see is:
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Sus gives you the quick start of prop and pp along with the "stable levels" people want, while the iso and deca build up, which is what most folks are recommending anyway... prop kicker right?
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Once the deca hits, that is all that is gonna matter unless you are using it at very low dosages just for sexual function while featuring other anabolic compounds. (which IMO is a perfect use for a test blend such as sus)
Maybe I'm a dinosaur, but what am I missing in this debate?
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UFOI hear what you are saying and it makes sense but I can only give my experience with it. When I tried to pin twice a week(for one week) I could feel a difference in my engery levels, like I was coming down off the prop. Was it a huge difference? No not really, but still a difference. And I did this on week 2 before the test iso and deca kicked in, so it may be a different story beyond 4 weeks. Other than that I would have agreed with you. Hell, sust was made so that TRT patients could take one shot a month since it had different esters releasing up to day 21. But I personally had a better more stable feeling when pinning EOD or M/W/F and most vets will swear by EOD.
UFOIt just has to do with keeping the most stable blood levels possible. If you pin sust only twice a week, for the first 4 weeks before the iso and deca kick in you are going to have a roller coaster feeling, super up the days you pin thanks to the prop, then it will die down. With an EOD pin schedule you elimate that roller coaster feeling and have more stable blood levels throughout your cycle. This is why I dont really like sust, If im doing EOD might as well be prop. I wound up pinning sust M/W/F and it worked out well.
WithdrawlCall me a dinosaur too bro (at age 33?) because I've NEVER injected sust more than twice a week and have always seen great results. I can totally understand the argument for injecting EOD but I honestly don't think it's going to make that much of a difference. I guess I'm old school on this one.
Sure you will get good results from just a few times a week.. That ut also if you are prone to sides like acne and such, if you inject it EOD vs every 3 days your hormone levels will be more stable.. I love sust and I inj EOD