+ 1 Subtracting esther when figuring total test
This might have been beat like a dead horse but I could use some opinions on this. So I have been researching about test and the esthers attached to get the total. For example if we have 100mg of test e only 82mg is the actual hormone (maybe more or less). Do we still take into account the esther attachment or do we look at the total active test? For this cycle I was using the actual test mg and not the attached esther. So my 500mg a week of test E was actually 325mg mondays and thursdays. I tried to remove the esther in the equation to get more total test. The funny thing about that was when I started to taper down for the last 3 weeks I found my strength hitting the roof which made me scratch my head. This is the last week of 500 and next week is my drop to 400, then 3, then a consistent 175mg a week until next blast. Am I over thinking this or does that sound probable?
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Read this post as I think it will answer a lot of your questions. Also only about 2% of the test is actually released into free test range. There are ways to change that figure but that is another topic. For now read the post and then see if your question is the same or your perspective has changed.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/how-do-different-esters...
So then we also need to factor in half life to the equations to get a true mean number. God I love the science behind this shit. My wife said if only I put this much effort around the house lol. Still trying to gather numbers on this to get a good number to start with on my next cycle. Maybe we can break the mold on this and get some real life testing? I will be glad to be the guinea pig on this one considering my 1st stage was puzzling.
I like the way you think bud. The truth is there are several members on here who think and believe as you do. I am generally the chart guy here on eroids and can tell you how much active compound is running through your system at any given time by the math. Just read some more of my post as I have written several about this very fact. But the truth is there is no way to predict with any accuracy how much test conversion there is for everyone. We all process these compounds differently. Some people on here have very little estro conversion while others just look at a bottle and start growing boobs. So the best way to find the answers you are looking for is to chart your cycles (like you are doing right now) and get 4 blood panels per cycle. One before the start, one mid cycle, one post cycle before PCT and then one after PCT. Then keep those numbers for comparison to your other cycles. You will start to find a trend and you can compare them to other people who have run responsible cycles and labs. Believe it or not there is a movement to do this. In fact there is a collective experiment starting this November with senior members who all have 5+ years of cycling experience to test different theories and compare data that will be compiled and then published here on eroids. The real trick is in the research and the math. Good luck brother.
So true; every one reacts differently to additives. I for one find that the true gains I get on a cycle come at weeks 9-14 (I'm TRT). I hardly ever have bloat or nipple puff and one .20mg dose of arimidex stops it in its track. Due to this it still shouldn't be way too difficult to find a halfway point that everyone can take advantage of. I'm going to run through some of your posts and see what I can grab from them to use in this adventure. if I plagiarize make sure you call me out on it lol
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Folks can speculate all the angles but ultimately it's HOW your body uses the test. Some guys can't use ai (blood test importance) while others get gyno unless using Letro. The human machine
Stop throwing monkey wrenches at me lol. Let me ask my source that question; I never thought of that too. God the more I learn the dumber I get.
not over thinking at all bro, actually quite intelligent, once injected, you have a conversion, some to dht and some to estrogen, so you are correct!!!!
Shit; I forgot about conversion lol. So it looks like my numbers were a little off. I wonder how much converts to estro and dht? Let me do some more research at school and see if I can get that number as well. Thank's for reminding me bro!
I think about 10% dht, 30% estrogen per 100mgs
I'm working on it as I type this.