posted Sun, 01/22/2012 - 16:02
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Got a homie who wants to try pro hormones, he let some dumbass personal trainer convince him they were a safer route than the real deal. I tried telling him pro hormones were nasty shit, dont work as well as juice, and cost more most times but hes scared to pin. Has a huge chunk missing from his torso from being shot with an SKS but scared of needles, how pussy is that. Anyway I couldnt tell him exactly what they do and hes not satisfied with "they'll fuck you up" so could someone please give me the specifics as to exactly how they fuck you up so I can pass the info before he wastes his dough and fucks up whats left of his insides.
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My experience with superdrol was pretty bad. I ran a couple cycles and had some nasty side effects both times. Gushing nose bleeds, lethargy, and immune system problems were the big ones. I gained a lot of weight and it made my muscles ridiculously hard but i got really sick right after the first cycle and about halfway through the second which kind of negated the gains. I have also read other people who had the same experience with getting really sick so there seems to be a correlation.
TropicanaJuiceAnother thing to thing about is how test is tried and true...they prescribe it to people all the time, its tested and safe, whereas these phs are just made underground sold till the find all the side effects and then pulled off the self, thats why there is countless phs on the market. BUT what are all the PH's claiming to do? convert to test....so why not just take test and forget all the other sides from shitty ingredients!
makes perfect sense. Test is what your body makes NATURALLY.
If you boost the levels, your body will react just like when they were naturally high. Of course, folks can go 2-3x more than they ever naturally have, and will have more severe sides.
Your body is made to react to test. The other chemicals aren't naturally occurring . . . so it is really a guess as to how your body will react. Chances are, it is probably not predictably.
Test is best for a cycle. Be it by itself or as a foundation. It's a;ways great to include Test in a cycle be it a low 250mg dose to keep your libido up and fatigue at bay or a 500mg+ dose to put on thickness.
TropicanaJuiceDude take it from me, Ive dont emass 3x and epistane. There are junk! If I could go back and do it all over again I woulda never took them. they will blow you up a little bit and strength will be good, but once you get off them say goodbye to the gains even with a good "OTC PCT" and diet/training. IMO I would say prohormones have the same sides but not nearly as good results. I had very high BP which resulted in nose bleeds,libido problems for awhile, terrible back pumps, the whole nine yards. If hes scared of the needle thats fine, but dont take the prohormone route...im still dealing with effects from those. Train hard. Eat PERFECT. and the results will be much better than prohormones.
AnonGlad you are open and learned from your mistakes brother.. thumbs up from me.
Plus 1 from me sometimes experience is the best teacher
TropicanaJuiceThanks man, live and learn. If your gonna do something do the real thing, 10x better effects and same sides if not less.
you can get effects with an oral steroid or PH.
It seems like folks use PH because they are still legal at the time. AAS will be stronger.
My question is that so your health is less of a concern than the legality of a substance? It backwards thinking.
I think folks don't want to pin test because that does sound as convenient or sexy as something else. But it really isn't the case.
I tell ya, if you are scared of needles, and just want to take orals despite good advice, then just skip the PH and go for the real AAS. I see a lot of good documentation on oral AAS sides. The PH sides are harder to find.
I agree with you except if your scared of needles and are only gonna take orals your stupid and you deserve the damage your body receives so basically aas aint for you if your scared of a little pin prick
And as usual, I agree with ya. The thing is, that I know that folks will make up their mind on AAS "yes" and scared of needles "yes" and then go orals. Probably heavy orals because they don't seem to view it as risky.
This is stupid. Test is best. I view orals now only as a "kickstart" or a "strong finish" to a test based cycle.
And then, <60mg daily and no more than 6 weeks tops.
A heavy long oral cycle is asking for serious issues. How is that safer than a once a week injection of test plus proper PCT with clomid/nolva? It isn't . . . it is much more risky/dangerous.
Well I'm on PH (SD Matrix) and it's working fine, no sides yet but only on my 8th day as of yet. So they work but of course not as well as real stuff, not very pricey neither @ £40. They are hard on your liver, which is why you take milk thisle for it.
Why waste your time taking something that doesnt work as well as something else seems stupid to me
beavisI've taken some good ones, but as stated below they are hard on the liver because they delivered via 17aa, and drinking on them is as huge of a no no as d-bol. I never had any sides and actually liked them a bit. I still have about 15 bottles of some that are banned now from working for a distributor.
Anonsomeone that is out of shape with a big BF% has a better chance of having a heart attack while on a PH than shooting up test. Plain and simple.
The pills will kill his lipid profile and throw his balance completely out of whack. People have some misconception that if they swallow it, it can't hurt them.. Whereas, 'shooting up' is some God forsaken heroine drug..
TropicanaJuiceExactly, I have buddies in the gym tell me they will never do injections but they would deff take something like dbol because they just have to take a pill. I agree they think injecting is evil but popping pills is alright. Does that make sense...no! Test has been used for many years and is a hell alot safer than these dirty prohormones.
I tried telling him pills are hard on your livir but he came back with some crap about the trainer told him they had some liquid suspension shit you hold under your tongue. I asked him do you spit it out after and hes like nah you swallow it, I told him then its the same as swallowing a pill lol
Anonliquid suspension LOL!! that trainer is out of his fucking mind brother..
even liquid suspensions such as "liquid winny" that is suspended in a 'water' mixture is bad on your stomach and liver. If you look up the chemicals they need to use to make those suspensions its plain and simple.. that trainer either is just stupid, or doesn't care about your friends health.
Injectable Stanazol is just the same as the pill form. Both are 17a steroids and put strain on the liver because they are difficult to breakdown. What a fool that trainer is lol.
Not to mention suspensions are bound to taste horrid I know winny does
dansta123and or making a profit
Anonagreed. selling some $10 shit PH like its the golden ticket.
dansta123had quik google and nothing came up scientifically just that shits toxic bro."bro-broscience"answers..its just in the same case as people wanting to take oral only coarses here..as the great ARNY says in my fav.scene in pumping iron as his black friend is squatting major weight and struggling..lets get serious....man up or fuck off is the only answer to any which way you look at it with this shit.my opinion anyways!
"man up or fuck off".... I like your attitude lol
I dont know much about prohormones I think they are worthless but I know one red flag for.me was how bad it screws up your lipid profile
increased risk of heart attack huh, lol. that should scare him enough, a heart attack is certainly scarier than a needle I would think