Primo info?
Hey guys I just have been thinking about Primobolan a lot lately. I try to do research on all compounds, and I have been looking up as much info as I can about primo.
I know it is very expensive, and known to cause dry lean quality mass gains along with low or no sides.
My question is what makes it better than other steroids? Take the price and side effects completely out of the equation. I'm just talking about the quality of gains on Primo. I heard it gives the muscles a nice round full look to it. Is this true? Would it be better than gains from EQ or tren? I know tren will give more gains but is the quality of Primo gains better than tren??
Just looking for a little info that is all. I'd love to hear personal experiences from Primo which is always better than reading steroid profiles online. Thanks
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What makes it better then any other steroid? This is easy to answer, it's results to side ratio does. What other steroid can you run at around a gram a week and get 0 sides from? The thing about primo is it will give you lean gains which are for the most part keepable gains. It's ability to keep giving gains even when dieting down pre contest is a huge plus for those who compete. Benros is spot on when he talks about the type of gains one can expect, gives you a fuller yet leaner look. Its ability to recomp makes it similar to what tren would do, without the nasty sides
The minimal sides is appealing. Is there any negative effect at all? It's a DHT derivative. Since it has to be run in high doses for extended periods of time, has it had any effect on your prostate? I've had symptoms like pissing 5x in the middle of the night just from EQ and masteron. I take saw palmetto when I run dht's but I still get funky issues with urinary tract etc. Notice anything like that? I'm asking purely out of genuine curiosity. This is the only compound (injectable) that I've never given a shot.
Nothing bro, I run saw palmetto year round and have always pissed at least 2x a night, story I my life.
Primo has somewhat of a Cult following in the bodybuilding world. I have yet to run it so I can't speak much on it. But I don't see the appeal. Everything I've read about it and people's first hand accounts make it sound like EQ. A very expensive EQ (if you're lucky enough to get Real primo).
Bodybuilder, Viking, RoidNoid, Sgtstedanko, these guys can tell you all about primo.
I haven't used primo either but i thought it was more comparable to anavar mostly from the low side effects perspective. EQ is assoc with high blood pressure, hair shedding and increased red cell count which can make you dizzy, short of breath, anxious or have nosebleeds.
I have never had hair shedding dizzy or short breath with EQ, high BP yes but that's about it.. I also don't get bad sides from tren (other than sweating)
From what I hear the only sides primo typically gives is acne and other similar androgenic sides if used in high doses.
Just because it's a DHT derivative doesn't mean it's going to give DHT sides. Anavar is a good example of this. Technically Primo is not a DHT derivative but rather a boldenone derivative or DHB.
Yes, so is masteron. Both dht's. Dhts can effect the scalp as well as the prostate. Anavar is a dht as well. But increased RBC will be apparent in any compound. AAS does this no matter what compound you run. Granted its more prevalent with EQ. Anavar is considered the most mild AAS there is. Liver toxicity is almost nil. But it's also the only one associated with hepatic cysts. Weird
t's nothing like EQ either. in terms of results. it has SOME similarities to NPP and Tren, although there is no compound to compare to primo. primo mixes very well WITH tren and NPP. gives you the sculpture look at 700mg-1 gram, provided you already have a solid anabolic base and are lean.
By sculpture look i mean your delts get very round, everything gets very round, but not in a bloated nandrrolone way, and you remain lean and striated, for example you see all cuts in traps and delts... delts become shelf.
Mixes very well w/ tren because the roundness of the primo becomes more aesthetic with the sharpness provided by; the tren.
I find this statement odd as I don't see many similarities between tren and npp in the first place. And as far as the comment about "Roundness" of the delts and seeing all the cuts in traps. I think this is too broad a statement. Maybe this is what you saw in your own physique but not what the next guy should expect. I could get these effects by using test alone with the physique and body type I have. Npp and tren are not very similar at all IMO. Other than both being 19-noraTestosterone. Gains are very much different. As for primo helping with muscle roundness and density. This I believe completely. All user accounts point to increased muscle fullness with no water retention. Vascularity, density etc. one last thing in response to your post I've heard most experienced users say primo is best used between 800-1000mg ew. Anything less is just a waste. Again I have never used it myself. It is probably the only injectable anabolic that I haven't used. My experience with it is nil so I am going on what I've picked up over the years as well as the first hand accounts of some of the pros around these parts.
After Schering ceased the manufacturing of Primobolan Depot in Germany, Italy, Greece and other european countries a few years ago, there are only left Turkey and Spain as last eurpean countries in which Primobolan Depot is sold. But it is only a matter of time that this will be ceased too. It didn't ever get really popular in the USA, i think that is because of the bad availability. It's popularity got boosted a bit when it came out that bodybuilding allstar Arnold Schwarzenegger was using this compound.
The oral version of metenolone (Acetate) ha no 17-alpha-alkyation wich it makes less liver toxic but unfortunately also less effective. It is only attached to 1-methyl-group which lowers the Speed of degradation a bit. The injectable version appeals, same as the oral acetat form, only slightly anabolic and highly androgenic. Athletes prefer the enanthate version, as it has some advantages towards the acetat form. On the one hand there is cost-benefit ratio which is several times better towards the Acetat. 2-3 ampouls of primobolan Depot per week cost from 12-30€ together and show the same results as 6 x 25mg tablets of the acetat-form which cost 12-15€ PER DAY. On the other hand there are more anabol effects reportet because of the depot-form and the assosciated cumulation (and by this a higher drug Level)
Steroid-beginner attain satisfying results at a dose from 200-300mg weekly An increase in bodyweight of a few kg (depending on intensivity of training, nutrition, etc) is realistic. That is the reason why it is beside Depot testosterone a popular Steroid for beginners. At this Point i want to mention that it is not, as often recommended, the most suitable beginner Steroid (this is still testosterone). As a DHT derivative the most common sideffects are for example oily Skin, acne, Body hair growth, head hair loss.
A popular and effective stack for beginner is 200mg Primobolan Depot combined with 250mg testosterone enanthate A hard and solid musclebuilding will occur and also the strength will increase consistent.
According to the fact that metenolone is only slightly anabolic even in dosages at 600mg weekly, it often must be changed for more anabolic steroids like nandrolone decaonate or boldenone undecylenate (for advanced athletes). The reason to prefer this steroids is simply that they are muuuch more anabolic and effective. Espescially for advanced athletes there will be extremely low muscle growing effects Furthermore Deca and Boldenone (or Tren) are much cheaper.
Contest bodybuilder often report from improved muscle quality. This effect occurs because of it's close affiliation to the DHT and makes the muscles look "hard" and full as we know it from other DHT derivates as mesterelone for example.
Metenolone affects the HPTA even in lower doses intensive so a well planed PCT is very important.
The bottom line is that the anabolic effects of methenolone are really low. I don't know who told you that Primobolan has no or almost no side effects but this is not true. It has all of the sides which are typical for steroids, espescially the sideffects of the androgenic component (DHT derivative). As a non-aromatizing steroid it also affects the blood fat values, and this clearly not in a positive way. By the way it is listed in Germany as the top 4. most faked steroid so i wouldn't trust it you don't get it directly from a muslim pharmacist.
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