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Help with thinning Hair

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Hello I wanted to make this post in hopes to see if anyone can help me out with my situation. I've been noticing very mild hair thinning lately and I wanted to see what people think would be a good idea for me to do.

I do not believe I am prone to MPB and my hairline is still low and not too rounded. I have been noticing mild thinning mostly on top of my head. My last cycle was test/tren/eq and at pretty good doses with low dose npp 150mg/wk towards the end of the cycle for joints. During the whole cycle I experienced almost no thinning or shedding at all. A tiny bit but nothing really bad and it actually thickened up later in the cycle which was odd. About 3 weeks after that cycle my hair started getting thinner all the way up to now. It's still not bad and I'm really the only person that notices it unless someone looks up close on top of my head. Anyways I had high estrogen at the end of that cycle and high prolactin so from the test/npp so I got aggressive with the prami and arimidex and low dose nolva. Not sure if the addition of npp midway/end of cycle is what caused the hairloss or hitting up high doses of AI causing more conversion of test to DHT. My previous cycle had deca in it and I had thinning hair with that cycle too but it came back during pct and once I was on tren it was fine.

So what would you recommend? My next cycle will be another test/eq/tren but I might completely skip orals and no deca with test at TRT levels. I wonder if the test is causing the hairloss? I would like to see if anyone thinks adding finasteride would help any? If so what dose?

I know finasteride won't do anything for tren, but tren doesn't seem to bother my hair.
I know finasteride is not a good idea with deca, which is why I will leave deca out.
I also think the EQ shouldn't really be affected by finasteride but I could be wrong?

If anyone thinks finasteride might help me please feel free to comment here or send me a PM
also what would be a good dose?
shampoo? supplements?
Any help would be appreciated.

j223's picture

Update: Been using Nioxin Shampoo for months now and my hair is still up there!!

big-T's picture

Use minoxidil aka (Rogain) it works you just have to keep using it forevaas.. But go to your nearest Walmart they will have it in concentrations of 2.5 and 5%, a three month supply is like 15 bucks.

j223's picture

nioxin shampoo and conditioner is helping. big time. So is HGH. I think I psyched myself out and it was all in my head. My hair is not looking thin at all

Modified's picture

For the past few weeks I have been using Nizral 2% as my shampoo everyday. It does seem that my hair is thicker. There is also a formula for hair loss that consists of minoxidil, tretinoin, and azeliac acid. Might be worth looking into.

cmo25cent's picture

Shave it bro. A lot of guys rock a bald head.

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Lets face it bro... yous gonna be bald in a couple of years theres no getting away from it roids or not its in your genetics.

Hit me up if need some hats!... i know a guy that makes some really fancy shit ..... on a good note a really vascular bonce looks impressive lol

Darktide's picture

You know human fingernails and hair are made up of the same substance just different forms. I don't know whether this is relevant but since I have been on HGH my fingernails have gotten thicker and hard. They also grow at an unbelievable rate. So maybe it can help with hair, the tough protein in both hair and nails is called keratin if you want to research it.

j223's picture

yeah my fingernails grow really fast on growth.

EmPee's picture

It does help with hair =) Check couple of posts below actually

Denser's picture

I just shave my head bro.

Pale's picture

The HGH has been actually thickening my hair. Matter of fact so far 7 weeks into this cycle it seems to be keeping the testosterone/DHT at bay as well and still thickening. I am digging it.

j223's picture

I added HGH at the same time as nioxin, so I guess I'm not sure which is helping lol

Rasputin_Omega's picture

Hey man, I just wanted to see if there was any thing specific that you found that helps since this post. I have noticed some thinning and shedding and would would like to be as preventative as possible.

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j223's picture

Keep test dose low and I'm using this shampoo called Nioxin. It seems to be helping!!! I recommend it if you can afford it costs about $40 per set which lasts about 2-3 months

Rasputin_Omega's picture

I'm going to go pick some up as soon as I leave work, $40 ain't shit to try and save some precious hairs! The girl that cuts my hair has been telling me to pick some up for some time and while she insists my hair isn't thinning.... she mentions it every time I go in so clearly she's noticing.

Thanks man

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j223's picture

The lady told me it takes 4 months to notice the thickness to come back. Luckily I started while I still have decent hair. I think I caught it before the thinning got too bad. That's the thing about hairloss, you can stop it from getting worse but you cant really get back what you lost.

Once you start nioxin, you need to use it the rest of your life (or untill you decide to stop) because you need to continue using it for your hair to stay thick.

I decided it's not that expensive. A regular bottle of shampoo is like 10 bucks which lasts about 2 months so why not pay 40 bucks for high quality shampoo and conditioner that helps keep your hair healthy

Rasputin_Omega's picture

Yeah I'm fine with spending $40 to prolong the inevitable every few months. I picked up nioxin "2" on my way home from work. 40 / 3 is $13.33 monthly. I accumulate that much change in my cup holder every month.

Now I just need to pick up some GH Smile

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thinktank's picture

Bro, finasteride works to block DHT conversion, which means it will help you with test related hairloss. Fina has nasty side effects so I would do DHT convertion bloods beforehand to see it its worth it.
Fina will not help you with tren, mast, dbol and if you use deca along with fina it will speed up the hairloss process.

Spironolactone is a proven androgen blocker and it will block any androgen activity Tren, dbol etc.

Get Aldactone (Spironolactone 25 mg) and you need about 30ml of 5% alcohol to Make a batch with 1500 mg worth of tabs, 10% solution - it will last around a month or so depend on how much you use.

Don't waste money on the ready made solution, cream or whatever bull - make your own, Its cheaper and way better!

Rogaine+ 2%nizoral shampoo is always a good combo while on cycle.

If all the above fail and you still don't want to shave it, here's the answer Smile
www.caboki.com

good luck, hope this helps Smile

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Long post..... easy answer bro...

YOURE FUCKED!!

Start checking out a few wigs brother... but you never know you might suit the bruce willis look.... lolol

j223's picture

I think I'm being overly cautious, nobody in my family believes me when I say my hair is thinning. But maybe I'm just being paranoid because I know it's a side effect of steroids. Genetically everyone on my mothers side still has hair. But yea you are right I think I'm gonna stick to lower dosages and stay away from hair threatening compounds, try some shampoos etc..

Guess I better start saving up for a WIG!! LoL

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Brother i wouldnt change my Aas usage due to hair problems.. hell!.. my attitude is so devil may care right now i dont care if it fkn kills me before another decade passes.

I dont want to end up being a shrivelled up old grumpy bastard living on prescribed medication and all that sad stuff that happens to old folks...... i would rather be in the gym and have the worlds biggest fkn heart attack and die happy with test and tren running out of every orrifice lolol

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

lol.... whats a AARP card bro?.. me being young i dont know much about this "old "stuff.... i know some damn good barbers though Smile

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Thats the spirit brother lets have a muta juice fest Smile

GCs only about 3hrs away from me.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Spoke with him a few times and i have a gut feeling i know him from the old days when he used to compete bro

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

yeah thats right from what i know too.... hey bro someone tried to sell me some anabolic nation bottles in a hotel gym we use last friday... i checked them out and they were defo your labels that i have had from you in the past or will they be old hat now!.. have you changed the labels lately... this guy had test 500 and some high powered bold

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Alright thanks for that bro.... i dont buy stuff in gyms but i do like to have a look in the backs of guys cars to see what they do carry.

Funny story from earlier today... this guy comes over to me in the gym and says hey man i just bought some gear, i have it in the car would you take a look after you finish training.... i say yeah ok no probs man.

Gets to the car park and he brings out the bag of stuff.... contents as follows...

1 pk clen
1 pk T3
2 bottles test (unknown brand to me)
2 bottles deca (unknown brand)
1 bottle eq ( again unknown)
Some 5ml barrels (yes 5ml)
PINS (25s (greens)

This is how he was instructed by the seller to run the cycle....

Take one each clen/T3 from day one until finished with 1ml of each compound in same barrel (4ml) and pin every friday until all finished.

WTF... this is the kind of thing i hear on a daily basis from kids in gyms over here.... its fkn insane brother and gets me so fkn riled up i want to nail some fkers head to the wall... thing is though the guys that are giving out this fkn insane advice are never to be seen.

Worst part is this stack cost the thick end of £700.... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

Sorry for hijacking your thread J... blame muta hes a fkn bad influence on me lmaooooooooo

j223's picture

It's all good bro I got all the info I need. Keep on.
That's messed up though fckin terrible first cycle advice

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

NO PCT or diet advice and check the price.... jesus he could buy 3X that much on here.

extremediezel's picture

i tried everything under the sun, rogaine, fina, shit to cover it up but, in the end nature takes its course, not having hair is almost as bad as being skinny.. shave it and buy some hats to cover it.. there's no solution yet!

j223's picture

Yeah I'm definitely going to have hats and beanies on hand if I end up needing them!

j223's picture

You are right big brother. I will definitely make my dosages MUCH lower on the AAS, I'll keep test at TRT level, leave tren low dose and drop if necessary, maybe use bold cyp instead of undec. and shorten my cycle.
I'm pretty happy with my size now, wish I was 10 or so more pounds but I think it would be better if I toned down my usage. Easier to prevent a fire than to fuel it and try to put it out.

j223's picture

no I meant run my test dose for the next cycle at TRT dose (200mg/wk)

but you are right

dudebro's picture

Finasteride will help with the thinning up top, they also have these laser combs or brushes that are supposed to help quite a bit.

j223's picture

PM me about the laser brush and combs man! +2

White Bolt's picture

i experienced thinning/shedding during my first cycle and started using nizoral 2% shampoo 3 times a week, and rogaine once daily after the shower. this stopped the shedding in its tracks... and after my cycle i stopped using both of these products and my hair was nice and thick like it usually is

--you can find some places on the internet that sell nizoral 2%, but its not available in stores because it's a medicated perscription shampoo

--rogaine was purchased from walmart