posted Fri, 03/29/2013 - 09:05
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Once Injection Vs Two Weekly
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Is there really much benefit to this? As in if your just doing Testosterone Enanthate. Does it actually mess with blood levels that bad if its once a week instead of two? Just wondering just was reading some threads and I guess it's just based on what people feel like. Hoping I could get more answers here maybe? Thanks
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I guess it all depends on how thorough you really want to be on cycle. If I am just using 250 mg ew test e, than ill probably just do one pin. But 500 or anymore I don't see any reason why I wouldn't pin more than once a week. I personally can tell when I spread it out twice weekly or every 3rd day for the enanthate ester, I can tell just my energy levels aren't consistent if I dont split it up.
Citrinite that's the point I was making (which others have picked up on). There is now way to notice. However based on the half life of these compounds weekly pinning would result in elevated levels on day 1-3 and reduced levels from 5-7. Consistency is key for gains. Also this is true for any compound; you have less adverse effects (sides) when you have higher frequency and lower doses. That extra jab in the glutes could be the difference between gyno.
How do you guys even know blood levels are
Stable or not?
You can easily get blood work done Brother. No md will tell you its ok but they will for sure " monitor" you while you are on a cycle and Its really the best way anyhow. You can watch your bp as well as knowing if your gear is even legit. I honestly wasnt trying to cause problems on your post. Any question is a good one.
it's more of noticing if they are UNstable, i think... things like, loss of sex drive, mood swings, acne, bloating, signs of estro changes, etc. all of which I've never noticed while using a 1x a week protocol for long ester.
alot of these responses are just flat out over-thinking it. like i said, shit get spouted out on boards, then recycled like its truth. it's a way for one member to sound smarter than the previous...
just look at the karma of those responding to your post and it'll be self-evident.
Sorry for ranting on your thread... i rarely comment on eroids threads (mainly for this reason...) but I've been preaching 1x weekly injects for long esters to my clients for a while and thought I'd share.
What does Karma have to do with anything???? And its more of noticing if they are unstable.... you think? Im sorry man I have been lifting and running aas for quite some time. I have a degree in sports rehabilitation and Im also a nutritionist. One of the mds I work with has kind of used me as his lab rat over the years. I think he wanted to know about aas as well... My point is thru all my learning I never got any Karma for it. Im new to this board. thats what low Karma means. Ive been on other boards for years. And I mean years! Same user name as well...
Once a week is fine for long esters because the half life is usually 10-16 days. There's no right answer to this question but dividing the active half life in half and injecting on that schedule seems to work well for every thing I can think of. I seriously doubt any1 would ever know a difference, But karma points has nothing to do with knowledge either. Either you know your stuff or you don't.
Its fine man. Just wanted to get some good advice. Which I got thank you :).Was just looking around on other boards for similar questions and thought I would bring it up here.
After speaking with some doctors over the years and roughly 15 years experience myself, I believe the best way to maintain stable blood levels Is to take the active half life of an injectable and divide in half. Example- enanthate half life is roughly 10 days, so every 5th day injections is the best you can get. Propionate is roughly 4 day half-life so injections of every other day is sufficient. Suspension is 24 hrs so twice a day injects are best. Orals should be administered as closely to their half times as possible. Example- dianabol's half life is just short of 6 hours. So take your dose as close to every 6 hours as possible.
U could also pin like every 5 days. Thats what I do when I run test e or c cycles only. I dont notice any change. And still get amazing results. But if I run two compounds I spilt it up. So ur pinning less oil at once.
I can't notice 250mg/500mg from a placebo. Doesn't mean there isn't a difference. Granted its not a huge difference.
No1Iv tried both and didnt notice ''more stable blood levels'' as everyone claims
How would you notice "more stable blood levels"?
what are you trying to achieve with your posts on this thread? you wouldn't notice "more stable", but unstable levels might result in acne, bloating, estro fluctutation, mood swings, and you can google the rest. this thread is asking for input on protocol. why are you trolling?
There is no way in the world to notice "more stable blood levels " ! Unstable .... Of course.... And thats exactly why a bi weekly shot is so important . I have had my blood work done both ways.... Have you?
Once a week is more convenient however your hormone levels will be bouncing around on a cycle like that. Higher injection frequency tends to reduce adverse effects and offer consistency - which is preferable.
Thats all I was trying to get at
RustyhookerI inject test e mon/thurs. Long Esters like eq can be done once a week but running 600+/week its just easier to biweekly. Sustanon i frontload and then once a week. Prop...eod. Jyst really depends on your body, inj site, and bloodwork..
I've been injecting long esters once a week for 4 years. 2x a week is something that is recycled and spouted out on boards without a ton of reason (imho... I've never seen comparison testing...). Endo's are prescribing one inject every 2 weeks on average for cyp. 1x a week, again imho, is completely fine... and for me, preferable
When you are being prescribed trt its not exactly for muscle growth.... Its for sure about the half life of the drug.
you're right...it's for raising hormone levels. the same reason we use it at higher doses for muscle growth. so what is your point?
The point is, Why are you comparing what endos are prescribing someone on a replacement low dose shcedule to someone thats trying to gain muscle mass... Have you ever had your blood work done to back that people are just spouting out shit. whenever I cycle I see my dr on a bi monthly basis my friend. Ive done both weekly and bi weekly injections. so why are you being a ? and what are you talkin about trolling!? What , because I read the thread and put my two cents in ?