On cycle training methods?
Gonna be doing my third basic test e cycle and I saw Arnold posted a QA on his training method for the new Terminator movie. It was to quote, calves everyday, cardio in the morning 1 hour, m/w/f arms and shoulders 5 exercises per group with 10 sets total. T/th/s he did chest, back and legs same as before 5 exercises 10 sets. Abs he did with cardio.
So that got me thinking, can you really train that much (6 days muscle groups being hit 3 times a week and smaller muscle groups almost everyday without over training on cycle?
I havent tried a 6 day routine since I was a kid (no steroids then) and I learned fast no results. Best results I saw during natural lifetime was 4 days a week.
So can you train that much on cycle and not overtrain? If you couls that would be fun I am sure if you are like me you love the gym and would love to go more.
Thoughts?
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If you eat properly and get plenty of rest it will be hard to overtrain. You just have to listen to your body. If you are getting weaker and feeling like you got hit by a truck and have no energy anymore, then you are probably overtraining. I train 6-7 days/wk whether on or off cycle. I actually use a form of "overtraining" (more correctly termed "overcompensation" training) to bring up lagging bodyparts. I'll hit the same body part 3x/week for a month and then go back to 1x/wk for that body part. That following month is when you really notice growth in that body part.
When it comes down to it, your body will let you know if you're over training. Everybody's tolerance and recovery is different. If you destroy a body part or however many body parts and feel refreshed in 48 hours, then hell train again.
There's a large divide in trainees, a group that veers on the side of caution for fear of overtraining and a group that says Fuck overtraining and goes all out non-stop. I believe overtraining does exist but I don't believe it's as prevalent in regular trainees as some may think.
There's some pretty clear cut signs the body will throw at you in the form of fatigue, pain, motivation, mental acuity for overtraining, so just listen to it. Personally I train 6 days a week. I have a night job from home with a gym around the corner. I train during the day and I train at night. It's my release and therapy, always has been. On the same note, there's times where 3-4 days a week is plenty because my body is giving me that feedback. And cycle / compounds / nutrition (pre, post & intra workout) will make a big difference in tolerance to over training and susceptibility to reach that level. One of the main reasons I use is for recovery. I love to train. Period. I train more often and recover far quicker when on. probably would help if I could find another hobby or form of therapy lol
The theory behind this training is that the frequency stimulates growth by allowing 48hr rest which is enough time to allow for recovery but at the same time doesn't allow your muscle back to a normal threshold, the consistent stimulation causes growth and yes it works I did my last cycle this way.
This is how they all trained back then. twice a day 2 hours each session. They trained with some insanely high volume, the same kind most of us would use for training each muscle once a week and they did it 3 times a week. Was it optimal? I have no idea. Frank zane competed and won the olympia at 185lbs at 5'9. Arnold was 230 at 6'1 when he was competing. Could they have gotten bigger with less training? I couldn't tell you.
It sound to me like Hypertrophy-Specific Training (HST).
Cause 5 exercises per group for 10 sets = 2 sets per 5 exercise's per muscle group.....
Here is a article on that style of training.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/hst1.htm
Also a link on the History
https://carvedouttastone.wordpress.com/2014/08/31/hypertrophy-specific-t...