my experience with steroids
can anybody throw some light on this;
firstly used dbol 30mgs a day for 2 weeks uped it to 50 mgs for a further 4 weeks using a differnet brand.
along side this used ugl test 300 sus at 750mgs a week for 4 weeks.
from this felt nothing gained nothing!
so i thought change labs used deca , masteron e and test 400 blend , used 10ml of each over 3 weeks felt nothing gained nothing!
in frustration i have now changed ugl again using their test e and test prop.
had three injections of these and still nothing.
the first week took 1mg adex eod was told that was too much so left it for a week then continued with 0.25mgs
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i have gained about 5ilbs which as gone around my waist.
calories have eaton around 2750 to 3250 all good food ie oats sweet pots , brown rice, brochli, natural yoghurt fruit nuts, turkey , fish, occasional steak.
training beenn unablw to lift any more than usual so no strength increase either.
there as been no testicle shrinkage, no oily skin , aggresion..
all forums have reports on these labs saying wow there doing the job.
for me nothing whatso ever
as any body else experienced this, low dosed gear? un responsive to steroids?
its the no effects bit i can't belive good or bad.
can anybody pm me with a lab with absolute 100% as in it what it says, i've spent a small fortune by now.
many thanks
and thanks for reading.
Carl.
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bigtrainOne of the issues with UGLs being treated like real labs. Lots of the dudes on here are legit, but clearly what you are getting is for whatever reason not getting into your system - if it was there to begin with in the bottle. Sell it to a kid and get something nice and new for yourself lol
Wow... I really don't know what to say bro. It must be garbage gear. You'd see something indefinitely at a much lower dose with a reputable product. I myself gained almost 20lbs in 5 weeks off of 40mg d Bol and 500mg test cyp a week. I could also feel the effects also immediately. I would look at 3 things as has been mentioned by various people 1st your diet! We all know that's key! Clean calories and high protein. 2nd your training regiment and lastly but not the last to consider is the quality of your gear. By reading this I suggest you do your research and find another reputable brand with some back/ proof that it works!
Its absolutely possible that multiple srcs gave him garbage.
You can scrutinize cycle, diet, and training details for assessing weight gain/ results, but like BMaj stated there are signs of good test that should have been noticed- feeling hot, oily skin, libido, accelerated training recovery, etc unless he was injecting wrong.
exactly!!
like ive said no feeling hot, no oily skin, no increase in libido, no testicular shrinkage or any other side you can think of!
injecting wise i researched and watched the viideos as i suppose everyone did here, and i use quads and glutes in the area shown using 23g needle, i have had some p.i.p more in left quad and left glute for some reason?
but i am injecting in the correct manner.
There is no way all the gear you took could be bunk.
Ive never heard anything like this.
Id do as others have said, start pct and get blood work done.
Dbol u should feel within a week, a lot say it's like 5 weeks+ to feel test really kick in, but you can tell your on within 2 weeks, even if it ain't strenght.
Good luck bro, you may need it, not being sarcastic there either.
BigBmajSomething is off here.
Even if you ate only 1200 calories a day you should have noticed something - libido at the very least. I
I can take a shot of prop and notice its in my body for about two days. I think there is at least 30 mg of fast acting test in every cc of sust.
Go get some blood work. If your test levels are low bad gear. If levels are high then the problem lies elsewhere.
Like everybody else has said, you have to run it longer. test e takes about 8 weeks for me tto REALLY notice results. d bol, idk what the deal was. maybe your expectations are too high.
Training might be an issue as well. If you are trying to add serious mass do one of these programs Stronglifts 5x5 or Bill Starr 5x5.
That being said if you haven't have any side effects or gains from Test I would say the source you used gave you some bad gear. It usually takes about 4 weeks to see noticeable gains from Sust, but you should've seen some gains. Hop on Pct take alittle time off get some new gear from one of the well reviewed sources here.
i ordered gear off top 5 uk sources ....
Four weeks on sust 750 mg and dbol at 50 mg you would of gained weight off dbol the first week or two and should of seen some sort of change mate butvsus would take longer.
Deca mast test not long to kick in again so this is why you neva gained much and felt like you had no results.
Its just a fucked up cycle i would advise a pct of nolva at 20/20/10/10
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Aromasin 6.25/6.25/6.25/6.25
While on pct read here research here learn everything then once you are recoverd start a fresh cycle when you know the score you will benifit much more from this.
Don't feel like a dick we all fuck mate its just life shit happens but we allways change thisbtor the better and you can start that today.
Research read all the stickys
and read up on diet your cals are to low
hope this helps
yes it does help thankyou for reply.
RustyhookerAgree with spartacus. Whats your stats? Goals? How long training?
Pct like spartacus advised.....time off.....plan a proper winter cycle. Folks here happy to help
Next time try to run a full 12 week cycle. Test is cheap and if u buy it from a reputable UGL is just as good as Pharma grade. Something must be missing as i noticed that ur Calorie intake seems to be kinda like for maintenance, and i don't see any amount of Protein been taking as you do not mention anything about it, you know that AAS accelerate the protein synthesis which results in building muscle,gear is not gonna turn u into a monster, only food can do that. You also need to know that throwing too many differents compounds hopping to turn into a Hulk is not gonna do much for you. Read the forums here, is many ways to do a cycle and i could suggest u to do Test E for now for at least 12 weeks with AI and ur PCT. Best Regards...
many thanks for a constructive reply.
my maintenance cals are 2500, so having extra over the week of about 3500.
problem is gained fat on waist so reluctant to increase calories further.
i'm an ectomorph type with what u might say below average genetics, hence why i have always wanted to put muscle mass on.
my expectations were that i would have an increse in libido and strength would also increase which in turn help to put on the muscle.
not feeling anything from dbol or test has led to frustration and desperation i suppose,
i am going to continue with the test e and see how its goes,will look into blood test also.
I am an Hecto as well but my maintenance cal runs around 3500. Just keep doing Test and do ur bloods and all that. Some people we just have bad genetics and we do not grow as fast or as big as others but having patience on this game pays off big time.
Are you a a lab monkey? Because i can only see a lab monkey who would be willing to inject themselves with this range of hormonal drugs.
i have used test deca and masteron.
sounds alot but only 1 vial of the masteron and deca, felt nothing so will not buy/use again,
the testosterone is all i am taking.
100 mgs eod of the prop
the test e twice a week 250mgs a time.
using the prop to see if i would feel it , as not felt anything in the test blend for 7 weeks.
No offense bro but sounds to me like you expecting to inject this shit and get a HIGH like you do with Crackor Meth, it ain't gonna happen lololol... This guys got you on point already and we are not sure what you wanna heard us telling you. At the end of the day is your body & you can do whatever you want with it, but better play it safe than sorry...
So your first cycle you ran around swapping dbol at kind of a low dose.. the sust won't do much in four weeks by then it's just really kicking in.. by week 8 you'd see the results.. then you went to deca and mast? This sounds like a train wreck.. do you even have a PCT lined up???
Yeah your stuff could be underdosed but that's not the real problem.. Your cycle might be one of the worst I've seen.. Who the hell gave you cycle advice?? You need to kick that person right in the dick! But that is also no excuse for not researching more.. You can't just take what one or two ppl tell you and assume it's true, you should always question what people tell you and research.
ok point taken.
50mgs of dbol a day is not considered low dose?
after four weeks of sustanon surely i would feel something maybe not too much in gains but libido ect?
reason i switched was thought was nothing in it so didnt want to continue injcting nothing.
masteron was added to help with estrogen and increase test effect, deca i read up on and was convinced it would a good addition?
dbol and sus is a normal first cycle.
yes pct have clomid and nolv.
didnt run around swapping used all 100 tabs first got nothing so used anther 100 of a differnet brand.
got nothing from them either.
any thing constuctive as far as havent had any effects?
I should have been more specific I meant the 30mg of dbol.. that is the least of your problems
Deca is a 19nor and effect prolactin which is what causes pregnant women to lactate and takes another cocktail of drugs to combat side effects. You would be wise to stop messing with that. It is a steroid for more advanced users and any one who tells you it is a great beginner steroid is full of shit.
You could save your money by just having blood tests done
http://www.privatemdlabs.com/
Get the female hormone panel to see where your hormones are at and it's cheap
Some may argue you can use dbol with a first cycle others will say you should not but the main point of a first cycle is to use Testosterone at 500mg for 12 weeks with a well dosed AI and see how it affects you then you get a blood test around week 6 or 8 to see if the stuff is underdosed, overdosed, or right on point.
Doing that will save you heaps of money and posting labs on here will help others to avoid scammers if you were given bunk gear
WeatherwedLol... OH CARL you big silly.
This gave me a big laugh
I was thinking the same thing....
whats funny?
WeatherwedNothing, If that was actually a real description of your steroid experience. I don't think Ive ever read a more irresponsible sequence of events. You don't need more steroid advice at this point. You need to spend the day pondering why you are willing to be so reckless with your body.
what is wrong with switching ugl if i was convinced there was nothing in them?
at a point in using the third lab which is just test prop and test e, thats all i am injecting,
don't plan on using more of anything.
if these oils where potent surely i would have seen some side effects?
can anybody say what lab as in it what it says?
its alll irresponsible?
you big sthilly goose
Damn smart phone, so now you get a +1. Enjoy.
I can imagine whats going to be said.
what?