All about the gear. I've said this numerous times. Heat it up, roll it in your hands, rub or massage it in...it's all about your supplier. You'll find out which oils you are good with;mct, grapeseed,cottonseed...also if the ba/bb is high. You'll have to be a monkey and experiment on a few suppliers. Pharma grade will almost most likely not give you any trouble but we're talking dudes making their ugl's the cheapest way possible so expect pip with nonpharma

The op previously posted his cycle and it didn't get flagged. I interpreted this post as a general question about pip.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-cycle-plan

Good lord here we go again..................I'm moving along............

160lbs? How did I over look that?

youre better than this live get it together

Damn, gotta stay sharp on here, too many 21 yr olds wanting co sign on tren and "twigs" wanting dose info

:(

The very first few times you pin a muscle it's gonna hurt a bit, first one to the quad might be quite crippling for about 5 days. Stick with glutes, if you get bad pip theee atleast you can still walk. But assuming you have high quality gear after the first few shots it shouldn't even hurt anymore. These days there's absolutely no reason for painful gear unless it's high mg, or a few select compounds that tend to have pip but even these (prop and some others) are pretty much pip free these days from the right chef.

It's virgin muscle that you're pinning so the first few will hurt a bit. But as your technique and muscle become acclimated it will subside. However do pay attention to carrier oils and solvents used in the gear you run. Some your body will like and some not so much. I can run EO gso peach seed oil apricot kernel. Safflower oil and MCT are a no go for me

There is nothing that you can do to 100% guarantee 0 pip, whether it's your first cycle or your 10th. There are too many variables. Many of the suggestions below and throughout this site can help to prevent it. Some people rarely get it. Follow all of the protocols and chances are better for reducing it.

This aint a nannas knitting club, were injecting cold steel into our bodies and injecting foreign subtances into our bodies, yea the shit might not tickle, harden the fuck up stephan or go be apart of the caffe latte bloody scene and travel the world dressing la de dah. Lol

The lower the gauge the less pip. I like to use a turkey injector... I stock up after thanksgiving.

Sometimes you have pip sometimes you don't I have found.. you get used to it. First few times I definitely noticed it more. Where you pin, and how plays a big role... and your gauge and length...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=70o_F6Yo7ck

Pip juice

First cycle the first couple pins will be pretty bad but nothing to turn you away from it i never get pip anymore make sure you warm your gear up before that was a night and day for me the first time I warmed my shit up it was like hell yeah I can pin all day long

You will be walking like a pimp for the first few weeks so pick up a cane, feather boa and hat so you can fully play the part when people ask you why you are walking to funny. If it continues after the first few weeks then something is up with either your gear or pinning technique.

If you know what your doing you should have little to no PIP after the first couple of weeks and even then the pip in the first couple of weeks is a just a little bit with Test E bro
On my first cycle I had my girlfriend do my injections the first two weeks and this helped me get the courage to start doing it myself

IM pins , don't get fancy

Your first few pins in each injection site will have SOME pip, but as you get further in your cycle the pip becomes much less. This is because the muscle your injecting is a virgin muscle and as you get a few pins in that muscle it will subside.

The key is to pin the correct way, angle, speed, and to prep correctly.

To minimize pip you should heat your oil up before each pin (run under hot water for a minute or two, boring but trust me it helps ALOT)

Pin slowly, 1 minute to pin one ml

Clean the area with alcohol wipe and allow it to completely dry (top of bottle too)

SITE ROTATION is very important, you need at least four sites to pin (lack of pin sites and rotation leads to the big knocks and crippling pain you were referring to)

Lastly, be active after you pin don't just pin and go watch espn, being active keeps the muscle warm thus oils absorb better.

Pip is caused by a bunch of factors but mostly poor pin technique and poor site rotation for a newb

Good luck

Yes and no. With virgin tissue and high concentration oils you will get some pip. Some high concentration oils are even unbearable. However outside of that proper technique is key like greenlantrn said. Only thing I would add to what he said is don't inject too fast go nice and steady and let it pin stay in for about 20 seconds after that so no oil leaks out. If you inject to fast it may cause a knot.

Yeah, it's avoidable if you do an oral only cycle lol
I didn't have any pip on my first cycle that was worth remembering. It really depends on the gear you are running along with some basc pinning techniques. Test e 250 should be fine, maybe it will be a little sore but nothing you would think twice about. Using a separate drawing pin will help too. Be sterile, don't pin after sweaty gym session, and make sure you wash and clean everything with alcohol

Maybe I'm old school, but IM is only way I would inject steroids

PIP is part of this "hobby". Sometimes it gets you, sometimes it don't. One can either deal with it, or not inject these substances IMO.

Yes, PIP is avoidable. I do IM injections, taught by doctor for TRT. Proper technique is huge. Test Prop will give me PIP, but not Test E or C if pinned correctly. First injection or two you may feel in each muscle, but it is virgin muscle learning to have oil injected. After that, remember to rotate sites. Clean injection site every time, clean bottle off every time, and always use fresh pin.