posted Mon, 01/09/2017 - 03:37
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First Cycle Plan
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OK so I've been researching this on and off for a few months now and I've (thankfully) learned that starting as simple as possible is the best way forward for a first cycle. Based on what I've researched, I've simplified this as much as possible. I now thought I'd post it on here for the more experienced amongst us to give it some final analysis (and criticising if necessary!!) before I go any further. Thanks guys.
Bloods OK - 185lbs - 14% BF - 37 YO - Diet OK - Gym 2Y @3DAW
Cycle:
Week 1-10 Test E 200mg Every 3 Days
Optional
Week 1-4 Dbol 20mg 1 a Day
Week 1-10 Letrozole 0.5mg Every Other Day if gyno symptoms start to show
PCT
Week 11 Clomid 50mg 2 a Day
Week 12 Clomid 50mg 1 a Day
Week 13 Clomid 25mg 1 a Day
Week 14 Clomid 25mg 1 a Day
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Thank Greg, I really appreciate your input. I wasn't sure about the Dbol either so I'll leave that out for this one then. Thanks again.
I'd stick with just the Test for your first cycle. When you're ready for your second cycle, run the same cycle with the Dbol.
I'd also wait 2 to 3 weeks after your last injection to start PCT. With a long ester, and the amount you're taking, it'll take that long for your T levels to drop to the normal range. Get blood work done near the end of your PCT. and be ready to extend it if needed. (make sure you have plenty of clomid on hand)
Agree with everything Greg says here. T is all you need on first cycle. See how you react to that before adding anything. I would also highly recommend upping gym visits to 5/week. 3/week seems really low to me to be starting with AAS. Always best to max gains naturally before adding anything. But cycle wise, what you have laid out with Gregs comments is great place to start. Good luck
Thanks jr42160, again I really appreciate your input on this. It's nice to know that I wasn't a million miles off. I'm happy to up the gym visits that's no problem. I actually go every other day (rather than 3 days a week) but I guess it's pretty much the same thing. I thought the rest days were just as important. What are your thoughts on this? Should I up them during the cycle?
Rest days are important, but I like to work my splits & consider a rest day for the body part not being worked. My current week looks something like this:
Arms
Shoulders
Cardio only
Legs
Chest / Back
Yoga / Pump / Some type of full body WO
So on good weeks I get 6 WO's in. That is my goal. Sometimes life happens & I only get 4. But I shoot for it and am seeing good gains on this cycle.
Currently running
750 TE/wk
50mg dbol/ED - 4 weeks only
I push my self as hard as I can on cycle. Some days I notice I am just beat and will throw in a rest day when needed. Listen to your body, if you need a rest take it. If you know you can be pushing yourself then I say push. Also, running test the first time you should notice an increased drive. I honestly think you will want to be in the gym more. Keep us updated on your progress. You are really going to enjoy the test
Thanks guys, it seems I can finally look forward to my first cycle. Final question from me would be would you go 200 or 250. I took the start low approach for this one. I think it might be best to leave it at 200 for this one and see how it goes then up it on the next one. Thanks again for all your advice. I've been reading this forum since last year and it's a brilliant source of information. Hats off to you all!
For the 200 or 250 mgs I say if your stuff is 200mgs per ml then leave it there but if it is 250mgs per ml go ahead and do that 400-500 I don't see why it would cause any drastic changes but if you feel better at 400 try that everyone is different
Thanks 05cummins. It looks like a certain Pharmacy store only have the 500mg/ml in stock at the moment so I'd have to go with 0.5ml/e3d for ease of life. I've read some pretty scary PIP stories with 500mg/ml Test E though. Any experience/advice here?
Pin that 500mg/ml and you will never want to pin yourself again. You will be in bed for a week wishing you never pinned that. lol
Haha! Best to wait for them to restock the 300mg/ml then (there's only 300/500)!!
I would be more comfortable pinning 250mg /ml for a first cycle. Never tried any 300mg/ml but it might be ok.
Thanks Makwa. I've obviously read up a lot about that particular Pharmacy and their reviews are pretty conclusive so I was looking to order from there but it seems they don't offer the 250. I'll keep looking through the other sources to see what's available and recommended by fellow members on here. Thanks again!
No harm in trying the 300mg/ml. I would still get another brand regardless of what you get. Always have alt least 2 different labs on hand in case one causes you to have a reaction. Sometimes you might be allergic to the particular carrier oil or solvents that brand uses and if you don't have another on standby then what are you going to do? Just good general advice until you find a lab that pins smooth for you.
Thanks Makwa, that's a great tip and one I hadn't actually considered before.
agreed