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Insulin without testosterone

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I'm not sure this is the right spot but wanted opinions.

Reason for this question :
I don't think I'll be using testosterone or any aas for awhile unless I end up inevitably doing trt due to natural test being low. I will be doing an hcg/clomid/nolv
therapy in hopes my natural test comes back.

My question in regards to the subject:

Because of my job, I kinda need to be buff (no i wont say my profession and no im not a stripper) Anyway, I'll be doing ghrp/cjc and cycles of igf/hgh. I was wondering if I could do slin without doing testosterone or other aas. I hear different things so I thought I'd ask here. RISKS ASIDE,I hear things similar to this statement below, can anyone give me their input?

"testosterone has the same chemical structure that your body produces, but the injectable ones do not work the same way as your own natural test. Natural testosterone release is in the form of spikes but injectable testosterone esters release testosterone at a constant rate, so this is not natural and also could lead to both wanted and unwanted side effects. Even if you inject 500 mg/week, and if most of it gets converted to SHBG."

"Using insulin (short acting such as Humulin-R or Humalog) it is the best out there among all hormones for bodybuilding. The rate at which you can pack muscles with insulin is incredible. keepable or not depends on your lifestyle. Also, it is the best to get the most from your total natural testosterone as it counteracts the SHBG."

Based on these statements, can one use slin with out use of synthetic test?

-Guido-'s picture

Slin shouldn't be used unless you are in the running to get your pro card and are under the care of a doctor. That shit is dangerous. I have seen to many people fuck themselves up with that shit because they fucked up their food intake and dosage regime.

manlytt's picture

So letro me get this straight, your relatively young and freaking out cause one lab result showed your off cycle test to be low. Did you abuse or miss use the anabolics to get to this point? Did you get labs before you started using aas? Bro I would use this hard knock lesson and stay the hell away from the slin. That has the potential to kill you if not done right or family history yadyada. Insulin resistance ain't no joke bro and really, for what? Your job ain't worth it if it truly requires you to risk your life. Bad idea, I know a junior bodybuilder that uses it and yes it is the king, but he really doesn't even have a reason to use it cause he'll never make money at bodybuilding. There ya have it that's my advice

Theonslaught's picture

Thats not advice... Blum 3
I see your point though. And my pct was bunk so that was the problem I'm sure. I'll do my re-pct and take a long break and have test taken again and again. My lab works are no free so that wont be a problem.
I've already used slin, I know the risks. I didn't say i was gonna take it constantly.
That being said, I simply wanna know if you can do slin without using test since ive already used slin.

manlytt's picture

Ok well of course you can. I thought you were on board with me about only using pharm grade pct a while back. Did you learn that one the hard way. I read your other post, I have to agree with there replies. Your free test levels aren't something to alarm and day to day differences. There is no doubt in my monday that if your levels were in the normal range before cycling aas, that they will come back. You might just need a good break and the hcg clomid sounds like a good plan.

Theonslaught's picture

Yes that is what I wanted to know.

Its good to ask, especially because you hear discrepancies of what is okay and not okay. You tend to get discouraged....

manlytt's picture

Haha damn I'm a slow typie.