posted Thu, 10/03/2013 - 19:45
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With sust can I get away with two pins a week Monday / Thursday or must I do Sunday / Tuesday / Thursday ?
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With sust can I get away with two pins a week Monday / Thursday or must I do Sunday / Tuesday / Thursday ?
Rustyhookerhttp://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/giving-out-inform...
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RustyhookerIts mainly to keep y'all safe and no points/karma loss. We get 16yo kiddies in here all the time trying to get info. Not good
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RustyhookerDefinitly no Ed pins! You want prop then you add prop. 30Mg of prop is not even noteable.
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27 yrs 5'11". 213 lbs and 12%bf
RustyhookerGuess then it's first cycle. I wouldn't run sust first cycle at all. Save it for future. Sust is different by users even mire than others because the Esters. Some guys frontload then once a week pins....as it was designed for. Some guys biweekly....others eod without stop. Without knowing basic test e and prop cycles its gonna be a chore.
Pulldowns....groups....beginner cycle group. All the info is there. Test e/cyp is lots eadier...less fluctuations
AnonYea I would say E2D since the shortest ester is Propionate(2days)
But either way you still gona grow
Monday-wdenesday-Friday will work great, ive ran sust twice a week and worked great too, up to you mate, but no need to pin it everyday!
I normally recommend pinning sus ed, or eod at the latest. Like others have said, this is due to the prop esters. Some will disagree on this though. I figure better safe than sorry (or rather too frequent than not frequent enough).
But... If you were gonna do ed pins, then I'd recommend just going with test prop anyhow (to each their own).
Sus ED??? It does have prop in it, as well as other long esters. Not a wise or good thing to do.
I do agree with your last sentence though: If you want daily pins, go with prop or the like.
I know it has long esters also but the reasoning for the frequent pinning would be for the prop. Even with the long esters in sus, I don't see why ed pinning would be a bad thing? Just as long as you're dosed correctly for ed pinning, you should be fine.
Either way, this is why I'm not that big of a fan of sus. It's either short or long esters for me.
Dude, I don't care that it has prop or phenyl prop. Don't you think that ED is a bit much? I knew a lot of ppl will try taking advantage of those short esters and pin eod with sust but Ed? What dose would you use ?
I'm not saying you have to pin sus ed, I'm just saying there's nothing bad/dangerous in doing so. The dude above was trying to say that it becomes dangerous to pin sus ed; which I don't see any logic to prove this?
Dose wise, I would treat it as if I were pinning prop; decide on the weekly amount I want to run, then split it between seven days.
Pinning ed may not be necessary but at worse, the only down side I see is the discomforts of the additional shots.
Pinning long esters ED would put you on way too much. To get the dose "correct", you would have to dose tinny amounts ED, which would be impractable and dangerous if you got it wrong. None of that is good or safe practice. My point was and is, Sus has two short (er) and two long(er) esters and is not good to dose ED. Stick with prop for ED and Sus should be used E3D or twice a week to be safe.
To state that it becomes "dangerous" is to assume the person is a complete idiot that can't measure his dosage correctly. That's a pretty far assumption. If you're going to think that less of the person, you might as well figure that he'll screw up on all other aspects of his cycle.
I've ran sus (amongst other compounds) ed and had a perfectly fine time measuring the dosage. Yes, the amounts are smaller, but so what? You don't have to be a doctor to measure correctly.
Anyhow, getting the measurement correct wasn't the point. The point was there is no consequence to pinning long esters (or sus) ed, BUT there are consequences to not pinning long and/or short esters not frequently enough.
I choose to pin sus and short esters ed. I've given an understandable reason as to why I do this. If you can give me an explainable reason why you shouldn't pin sus ed (other than assuming the user is incompetent), I'm all ears.
This isn't a personal attack. This is a forum and what you post here many people read and start doing. Due to the long esters in Sus, it's not wise to pin ED. Would you recommend pinning test e or c ED? The half life are long and you start pooling it in your system. You could end up with way too many mg in your system and all the short and long term sides that come with it. That is my reason against it. I have never see anyone here on eroid recommend this. Could it be done, maybe, but it's not wise or safe over time. I'm only trying to post safe and proven information for Sus. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me. Again, I respect several of your ideas, just not pinning long esters ED. I'm happy to discuss this further in a pm.
Thank you my friends I really appreciate all the info and advise really helping out.
Muscleg33k3x (m/w/f) for my preference.
I do 3 times per week just to take advantage of the prop in it. if you pin 2x you are really wasting the prop and that usually is 40-60mg of the 250mg formula... so then you are using basically 190mg every pin or 380mg per week which isn't terrible but thats as low as i run test
What matters is the quantity you inject. You can inject a little less 3x/week or a little more 2x/week. The day to day variation is not really that critical IMO
I've always done twice a week and it's worked great for me. There are lots and lots of opinions on this, but there is no "right" way to do it. Experiment and see what works best.
Thank you greatly appreciate all the advice
Honestly there are opinions on sust most people say that it needs to be pinned eod because it has prop in it but the way i look at it is sust was designed to give stable blood levels and less frequent injections so if you pin it eod your levels will have peaks and valleys because all those mid length esters pool up, i have always pinned it 1 to 2 times per week hopefully some else will chime in and give there opinion
Thank you I appreciate your advice and info
no problem bro