+ 1 EQ - wothless or not?
hey guys, into my second week of my test/eq cycle and wanted to hear some opinions on EQ. it seems to be one of the most, if not thee, most controversial AAS out there. some love it, some hate it. so im diving in with both feet to see what this compound can do for me.
the problem i see with most others protocols is not enough cycle length or too low of dose. i keep seeing some experienced guys talking about running EQ "right" ..can some vets elaborate on what this means?
im front loading the eq for the first two weeks until plasma levels are built up to the weekly dosage, and then backing down to a weekly dose of 800mg for 20 weeks. this i feel will give me the best firsthand experience to see whether or not this compound lives up to the hype, good or bad. i just came off a 2 month prime before this cycle, cutting down on carbs, and then upping them considerably once the cycle started. perhaps its a placebo but i can already tell its taken an effect on my hunger. i inhale food and can eat all day long and if EQ doesn't do anything else for me at least it will help me stuff quality food down to help me gain more lbm.
so.. lets hear it, what is your positive or negative experiences with EQ, what things did you wish you knew before running it, and what tips can you give to get the most out of this compound. thanks
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AnonLove eq but once I tried bold cyp I will never run eq again.
Please elaborate brother
AnonSure man
I love eq, I puts on good solid mass, increases vascularity and lets me eat like a horse. Its probably my favorite compound to inject. However I dont like the slow build and the duration required to run it effectively. I prefer to keep my cycles to 12 weeks or less at the moment.
With bold cyp I can do just that. It kicks in faster, about 3 weeks, no need to front load. And the fact that it works faster makes me feel like the effects are more pronounced. And for me the gains are easy to maintain post cycle.
People seem to love it or hate it, but I personally love it. It has always yielded great results with minimal sides. Hope that helps
Thank you. I am going for my first eq run soon and you convinced me to get bold cyp instead. Thanks brother.
AnonNo problem, I hope you enjoy it as much as I do
I love EQ. Ran it 3 times now (including the Bold Cyp ester). Love the endurance it brings and the slow lean mass it adds. Just make sure you donate blood frequently. I know it takes a while to kick in but I think it does wonders, especially when I am trying to cut down
witekif you have good EQ it is really good it will get you hard and lean.
but most seem to be underdosed those days.
Hate eq it used to give me anxiety like crazy. Not to mention heart flutters. I personally would never touch it again. My buddy loves that stuff though for leaning out. All in all it depends how your body responds to it. It make be gold for you or you may have sides like me lol noway to know before hand
I have never got this. What dosage were you using and how much test?
The only time I've experienced something similar to a panic attack was on EQ.
I'm to impatient for undec, so I got a bunch of bold cyp. I even have some bold ace in the stash and maybe I'll give it a shot as a kickstart but the pip is supposedly horrid, so I'll most likely just front load the bold cyp. I'm really excited for this run.
ive heard too many horror stories about acetate to ever want to try it. when and if you ever do decide to run it, lets us know how it goes
You got to give it so much time but when it works, you know about it. Run it in 3 cycles so far.
hopefully frontloading for two whole weeks will help get the ball rolling and running it out for 20 weeks will let me see what all you guys who love it are talking about.
Yes, two weeks fronload is good and brings the effect forward but not by much. I got bad back pump after front loading it. Get some turine in for this. It can cut your workout short
EQ is garbage for me but I'm usually looking for size and can achieve lean without it. It's a lot of pinning and money for something that isn't really noticeable for me.
I love it. Be patient it will reward you. If your diet is good the results late in the cycle are magical
im hoping i will be one of those who love it. by "good diet" what do you mean? this is a bulk and i tend to lean out on cycle of just test anyways even eating way above maintenance. so essentially im eating as much clean food as i can stomach to put on lbm.
im doing the same right now, mid to high test with 600mg's eq 12 weeks in the eq is starting to kick. up 14 lbs and hard as fuck. nice and dry...Its a compound that just works well for me. I eat very clean real food and only take 2 shakes a day- the rest is 6-8000 cals of good food. Good luck
"good diet" meaning you want to eat Woolly mammoth, but you have will power to hold back.
I ate 1/4 cow and whole sheep in 2 months + numerous veggies by myself on 600mg EQ.
On 20 weeks cycle.
damn i wish i had access to whole livestock haha fresh as it comes huh
drolskieeq is a good versatile steroid, when they say running it " right" generally speaking its refering to dosage and length, alot of inexperienced guys will finish the cycle right when its about to kick, 20 weeks at your dose you will feel it for sure, week 12 is where the fun begins for me, massive increase in appetite, strength gains, vascularity, the most important thing is to watch your blood pressure, big rbc increase, go donate blood at least twice on a 20 weeker, listen to your body, headaches, hot tingling skin and swollen feet are signs of hypertension, stay very well hydrated, eq has its place,i think its just been shadowed out by mast, which imo is superior.
Someone else recently had similar questions about a sust/eq cycle... the following is the thread, which includes a link to a recent sust/eq cycle log I ran: http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/sustanoneq-cycle#...
If you're running test cyp or enanthate instead of sust, you can do a Monday Thursday split with the test at 500mg wk & eq at 600mg/wk. Aside from a frontload, I see no reason to run more than 600mg/wk for your 1st run. That said, it does take patience Bc eq takes some time to kick in.
Most important will be keeping your diet aligned w your goals for this cycle, bloodwork, and keeping your blood pressure in check. I also addressed this in the link above.
Good luck with your cycle pal and feel free to pm me if you have additional questions.
well the difference is most vets are TRT and can run cycles different then a guy that has to recover. Still EQ can be a great add even for 16 weeks cycles but when you get into the 20 and 30 weekers its nice to have in there.
I like EQ.
MeinuntergangDid 800 mg for 16 weeks, then took whatever was left and lubed up my little brother's bicycle chain with it. I had a slight increase in hunger but that was never a concern of mine, as a modest dose of prop can make my appetite insatiable. Other than that, my blood pressure was elevated, and I really experienced nothing worth mentioning. The stuff is very overrated. Save the money or get something else, if it's still early for you to try something else. take the money and buy better Test than what you were planning to buy in the first place.
good to hear from someone on the other side of things. well i already have tons of pharma grade test in amps so... cant get any better than that lol. the eq didnt break the bank either. lets just say it didnt come with oil added yet. this cycle is really just experimenting, if the eq doesnt do shit for me at least i will know for future cycles, and im running higher test than last time, with the same pharma stuff so ill gain even if the eq does squat.
My last cycle consisted of 600mg EQ and 500mg Test e for 20wks. I am not a fan of it. I really didn't notice much more than if I would have done a basic 500mg wk test e cycle. Didn't experience the hunger that many claim they get with it either. I still haven' t found anything better than 1-test cyp (dihydroboldenone). That being said, I think I will give EQ one more try but I will bump up the dosage to 800+mg and add in some bold cyp to get the cycle rolling.
looking forward to trying 1-test cyp in the future. its another one of those compounds that have reviews across the full spectrum. some love it and some hate it. it will be interesting to experiment with it.
A lot of reasons that I agree with brought up here. I will add that the gains I got from EQ and test cycle were super easy to keep. More so than any other cycle I've done.
I love EQ but it's definitely a drug that requires some patience to see it's full effect. I like long cycles with it and have worked my way up to running it 26 weeks. You hit the nail on the head, duration and dose are key with it and honestly it's pretty versatile. I don't think I'd ever run it less than 600mg a week and hind sight would probably not run less than 20 weeks. A lot of the fun starts for me around week 14. My preferred use is during a re-comp or diet to shred down for comp or whatever. The look it gives during a lean phase is insane. Full, vascular, and dense. Just have to be patient and fight the hunger (unless you want to bulk with it). I've run it with a lot of different combos...love it with mast. Even without tren; the mast, eq and test can give an insanely grainy hard look. I feel like the Mast amplified the nasty pumps and cramps for me, but the right ancillaries can handle that. Taurine was mentioned below, works well. This drug definitely requires me to give some blood, so be mindful of hematocrit / rbc. Also watch bp and be mindful of anything you stack with it that may amplify those sides. But yeah, love this compound. Didn't use it at all during 2014 and really looking forward to 2015 with it.
I'm about to do an eq test and gh cycle but I'm still deciding on doses
I ran EQ at 800mg a week for 18weeks and could not control my diet. I ate everything in site! After about 12 weeks I got really veiny and I was weighing around 200lbs benching 405 and dead lifting over 500lbs. I would say that was the strongest I ever been and probably from all the food I was eating.
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Carne Asada burritos all day !!!
Lmao!!!
Im getting ready to use it for the first time in about a month. Heres what i think the problem is with it. You need to use a pretty high dose of it, 600mgs+. Because its never been a pharm grade product good raws are very hard to come by. A guy who does a lot of testing said the highest purity he came across was low 80s with most being in the 60s. SO say you're running 600mgs but its only 60% pure you're really only running 360mgs ew. So not enough to do much. Most people who've ran good eq say its a great drug. One of my friends is a pro bb and he said one off season he went from 216-262 in 6 months with 600mgs of eq and like 600mgs of test. Idk about you but id say those are pretty decent gains. Obvously the guy knows how to eat but doing that while staying pretty lean in a 6 month period when you're already 216lbs on stage is means the drugs are working pretty damn well. And the hunger benefits is awesome. you must eat big to get big.
I agree with you 100%. I did 700 MG of eq for 10 weeks and I did not feel nothing. On the 11th I switched EQ Gun from a pet store and I run it at 200 Caz it was 50 MG/ml and wow I love that shit it hit me in 1 week huger is crazy. I mean if you get the right eq I'm sure u will love it.
It will benefit you, especially if you're skinny and don't like to eat much.
As far as appetite goes , think GHRP 2 X 5.
If you also want to increase your aerobic endurance this is the compound. Strength should creep up weeks 8.
Forgot to add
Your blood pressure will go up on eq. Buy a monitor $30.
If you already have foggy vision your bp is fucked !
Back down to 600mg !
RustyhookerI love it but that's just me. It's a drug of patience. High test or low test determine a lot.
Get taurine! You front loaded so back pumps will kick in sooner. Just be prepared. If you feel winky, then donate blood. Hydrate well and monitor bp. Hunger is the bonus of eq. Mass n meals!
Others will chime in. Should edit yours to show full cycle, ai, hCG if used and pct
im running it at a 1:1 ratio. so high test i suppose, it is a bulker after all. good tip on taurine, was unaware that eq contributes to back pumps. im donating 2x at least during the cycle no matter how i feel. well, i didnt include full cycle because i wanted to keep this discussion about EQ and concentrating on that rather than my cycle.
RustyhookerNo worries. Fill that freezer! Take snacks everywhere that are good for ya. You have the munchies