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EQ use for older males?

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A prostate cancer survivor. They are on tes therapy due to low T (97). Doctor put on treatments of of .5 CC per week. Wanting to add EQ to treatments to help with building. How much EQ could or should the use to stack? Use equal amounts?

StayreadyJohn's picture

Low dose deca would be a better choice because deca is much less androgenic than EQ. Basically nandrolone will give u more tissue building, recovery benefits then EQ without the sides of blood pressure or elevated rbc... MG for MG I think deca ( nandolone is more effective at small doses, typically EQ has to be ran higher than deca... many people have great benefits from 200mg week of npp or deca but I havbt heard many ever use EQ that low.....congrats on the cancer battle and regaining your health!!! I think adding maybe 100 to 200 MG deca along your art dose will allow for a great quality of life and increase in fitness goals and some aesthetical benefits!!

Izzy75's picture

In your case and with the dosages that you are stating, I dont see much of a benefit in adding eq to test. If you start to aromatize from test, then eq might help you in controlling estrogen side effects, but if you suffer from high blood pressure then eq might be a problem. Plus in terms of building muscle you won't see much from eq to be honest. In your case the word health is the keyword, so staying with test under your doctor's supervision is your best bet.
Better look into understanding the concept of macros and play with that. A little test with a good nutritional plan can take you very, very far.

Drask88's picture

Idk I might rather be dead than 97ng/dl test.

Jockstrap's picture

If you run eq just keep up on blood tests. Youre low tes currently and eq has a slight conversion to an ai. Just so you dont find your joints crunchy plus other low estrogen sides. Also bloods to keep eye on rbc and of course hour prostate numbers.

You cant run hgh or the cancer risks raise. Otherwise hgh is simple enough, just not in your case.

Rosschestzip's picture

So I’m pretty sure on the medical insert with pharma hgh it only mentions not using it if you’ve had brain tumors and doesn’t mention any other cancer risk, I’m like 80% sure it doesn’t. Any thoughts on that, do you know for 1000% fact that it increases cancer risk or is that just one of those things that’s just been considered “common knowledge” in the bodybuilding world and no one knows why?

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Jockstrap's picture

100millionbillionquadriple with a virgin fucking cherry on top.

Ive had several friend/relatives that i helped with wasting and cancer related issues. Only thing more certain is death

https://erc.bioscientifica.com/configurable/content/journals$002ferc$002f30$002f10$002fERC-22-0402.xml?t:ac=journals%24002ferc%24002f30%24002f10%24002fERC-22-0402.xml

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6603614/

https://academic.oup.com/edrv/article/40/2/558/5214057

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37428642/

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/pediatrics/articles/10.3389/fped.20...

I could go on another 20 lines but its boring. Growing muscle mass is more funner @Rosschestzip

FELIXS1964's picture

Oncologist advise test will promote prostrate cancer.
Oncologist is one that let me go on low dose test therapy.
Was very lethargic before staring test therapy. Test was 97.

FELIXS1964's picture

I will only run .5cc a week. No way I'm going any higher unless my doctor let's me. Running. 5cc a week and my test level is right around 450 and my PSA is .6. I am estatic with those numbers. I still have my prosstate!
I'm looking at stacking test .5cc and eq at .5cc. Was just wondering if any side effects. I know there are guys running 5 times that. I can't.

press1's picture

Having your testosterone level 4.5 times greater than what it was at must feel great now buddy! I cannot imagine for the life of me what having cancer feels like, then surviving and getting through it. I am sure you wake up every morning and live your life to the fullest after getting through all that. You do have other compounds that can be run fairly low and at the same time are fairly safe - I am not personally advising on which one in your situation but options you can consider are NPP, Primobolan, DHB. I wouldn't go much beyond 200mg/wk with any of them however until you know for sure if its okay to do so. EQ is definitely NOT one I would consider with the muscle returns it gives vs potential side effects.

NYButwhy's picture

Personally if I insisted on stacking with the EQ I’d match my Test amount.

Jockstrap's picture

Testosterone converts to dht which harms his prostate

Pumped_'s picture

And i was bitching i have to give my doctor bloodwork for prostate every 2 years because it costs me cash. Probably good idea then if im doing test.

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Jockstrap's picture

Was the outside blood tests cheaper? Quest etc? @Pumped

Pumped_'s picture

Its not covered for some reason like the other reg panel she requests yearly. Its not much but im like "why do i have to pay if i already pay $230 a week for insursnce

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FELIXS1964's picture

Give your doctor all the blood he wants!
I do blood work every 3 months. Taking test I have to monitor my PSA constantly.

bigred250's picture

Just take more test

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FELIXS1964's picture

Can't take more tes due to having prostrate cancer. Limited on that front. Tes is fertilizer for prostrate cancer. Very limited on dosage. Looking for dosage of EQ with the amount of test can take.

Pumped_'s picture

First time i thought it was misspelling but second time i have to ask, is it called Tes im your country? Not being sarcastic or facetious. Im asking seriously

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FELIXS1964's picture

Testosterone
I have bad habit of calling it tes.

Rosschestzip's picture

We usually just call it test

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Pumped_'s picture

I say test too but i am 1975. 1964 is away older than me lol

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pingree24's picture

I am 1983 here and it's test here too lol. I'm too old to care about being trendy

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FELIXS1964's picture

Sorry I will call it test!

pingree24's picture

No need to apologize my friend, tes it is!

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Rosschestzip's picture

Idk why it bothered me so much to see it spelled like that lmao. But you can call it whatever you want man, just don’t call it some weird shit like “magic boner sauce”

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FELIXS1964's picture

At first I thought I was dealing with my wife!
LOL!

Pumped_'s picture

She dont like to say Tes either?

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