posted Tue, 02/05/2013 - 17:13
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why is there so many damn mixed reviews on this substance? Also is it really necessary to run only in longer than 16 weeks?
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scootertrampExcellent substance but requires proper diet, dosing and long cycle. Most guys come on wanting 20lbs instantly then after cycle they're water drops and its 12-15. Ideally, why not be patient and get 15solid with no drops? Manipulating testosterone helps in final gains or overall gains.
Can you explain in details when you say manipulating test
scootertrampTest converts to estradiol at a higher rate than eq. So control your test to achieve your goals. 600/600 is a basic nice bulker stack. Lil water weight but good strength and eq boosts appetite and endurance. But say you want a spring cycle. Run the first 12Weeks at 600/600, then drop the test down to 350-400. Less aromatizing and since eq is higher the eq can really bring out the hardness and vascularity. Both of course rely on clean food because you can be muscular as Hell but if fat covers it then its just not visable. Test ends week 16 & eq on 16. Use of prop taper for 3 Weeks is a nice finish to the cycle. Your bf%, goals, and past cycles help creat a full cycle. If its you basic 4th cycle then keep it easy. You'll grow if food is correct. More advanced cycles can be created as well.
If ran properly eq is a great compound
I guess the mixed reviews and cycle length are linked cause I have seen a lot of poor things said but almost all from 10-12 week cycles. Thx for the info bros.
StevebAnd you will notice its full potential around week 8.
SwolePatrole7Wow you said recommended dose is 100-500 mg a week??? Come on bro! Recommended dose is more like 600-800 a week..eq wont do shit in a small dose. I love eq and i run it at 600 with test @ 300 a week for a lean bulk and it is pure excellent for solid gains. Side effects are minimal and running it for 16 weeks is perfect in my opinion because the great gains dont even start to hit til week 6 or 7. What have you heard negative about eq? Id like to hear..
This is taken from another site
EQ is complete shit!!! It won't add any extra muscle, it adds a little definition if your in the single digit bf and thats only after like 10 weeks of being on it. Then you start to notice a little vascularity which is almost always caused by high bp. I'm not saying you have to be on tren for it to be a real cycle either. I just think there are much better things that can be ran in a cycle. Masteron for example
Most of the complaints are similar to this
SwolePatrole7Whoever wrote that is stupid, and he thinks masteron is a better bulker? Lmao masteron is a dht steroid known as a finisher to dry u out at the end of a cycle. Eq is an amazing bulker if ran properly alongside with dieting and lifting. Dude just do us all a favor and go back to your retard forum you were at before, or stop posting dum shit that is completely wrong.
you realize this is the point of asking questions, if youd like I can list several other people with similar complaints, as you will notice I said most of them ran it 12 weeks or less. Eq is an amazing bulker you know from personal experience?
SwolePatrole7Yeah but you post misleading shit, everyone on this forum knows that the information you provided is wrong. We dont need you to post more misleading shit, ppl like u confuse newbs.
again you are just proving my reason for posting it, clarity
Why is there mixed reviews?? Your recommended dosage is incorrect. Also yes 16 is the MINIMUM. Ideally over 20 weeks.
That is why there are mixed reviews, because people do not run it high enough dose or long enough.
You are 100% wrong eq does not need to be taken for 20 weeks and a 20 week cycle is to long to begin with,unless you want your natural test levels to be shut down severely. The ester in eq takes four weeks to build up and by week six is peaked. the only reason you should run it for 16 weeks is because you get the maximum effects for an additional 10 weeks. You can run it as short as 10 weeks but your gains will be minimal. Extremely long cycles are not recommended for younger people as it could lead to TRT.
I never said I recommended for people to run 20 week cycles.
I was just pointing out how running a 12 week cycle of EQ is a waste. That would be like running dbol for 2 weeks. Sure you will gain a few pounds but your not getting the most out of the drug.
I do agree long cycles are not for the average gym rat, but EQ ideally is run past 16 weeks.
Fair enough, but be careful how you word things it reads like he should run it for 20 weeks. People with limited knowledge on AAS may take that and run with it. Next thing you know your advice that you had every good intention with now hurts someone.
Laying down some knowledge! So much misinformation around here. Glad some people like you are helping the misguided because I don't have the patience for it.
Thanks brother, that's what I'm here for. I picked up a thing or two spending 23 years in the gym.
Tried giving you a thumbs up but won't let me. I must be to much of a newb.