Double Dipping Orals
I know after reading this title you're probably like this guy is a complete baphuon, however this is a question of a theoretically nature and I have no intention on it's application, until I have the approval or disapproval of the eroid community. Lately I've been reading about cycles running for 14-16 weeks before they even begin to taper off, so more along the lines of 16-18 weeks, and then pct....With that in mind, I was thinking since the length of the cycle is so expansive and the allotted time for oral steroid application is a mere 4-6 weeks, is it not possible to run a 4 week kick started say dbol and then allow your liver to recover for an additional 4-6, and then the application of a second oral or the continuation of the the first oral, would this be okay? With of course the proper liver protection implemented.
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i sent you a pm bro, look how i run orals, its tried and tested with minimal toxicity and ive had bloods multiple time too prove it, its called pulsing two weeks on two weeks off for duration of cycle, liver care is a must, milk thistle spread evenly throughout day, liv 52 before bed, beetroot juice daily with breakfast, a heap of water and super greens daily aswell, liver isnt only issue but takes biggest hit.
How "old school" of u bro. That's how us old ones like to do it :)))) That is really excellent advice! U get a bump for that one.
Cool thanks bro... I'll check it out.
FR sent brother. For the most part everyone is right..But if ya like I will let ya know what I do..And no..Its not some crazy liver cooking shit.
The liver will self repair over time with no toxins. How far it was damaged and the person will determine how long that takes. Blood test is the only way to know for sure. Personally I wouldn't see a problem with myself taking 4 weeks of dbol then taking 6 weeks off then 7 weeks on anavar.
I believe I read somewhere that if an alcoholic's liver is just pre cirrohsis and they quit drinking and adopt a healthy lifestyle, then the liver will repair itself to the point of complete regeneration, like he's never had a drink, after only 90 days.
But of course blood tests are the only way to know for certain.
I just watch a video with Dorian Yates. He stated he ran AAS for 12 years taking very little if no time off. Keep that in mind for a second... He also said he watch a movie called "Super Size Me", it's a documentary of a man eating nothing but Mcdonalds 3 times a day for 2 weeks. Within that time frame the "man" health spiraled downward to the point of possible developing diabetes. In comparison, 12 years of AAS usage impact your health less than some FDA approved food. Which also ironically contain GH... Rich Piana also brings up very good points on the health effects associated with AAS usage. Think about this, AAS are organic to your body, when you ingested them, by whatever means you prefer, the do not produce a high. Comparing that to caffeine, nicotine, alcohol... they all produce a high, a state the body isn't suppose to be in... steroids are illegal but that other shit isn't, does that make any sense?
Not sure what you're getting at... I was merely talking about liver function. Oral anabolics are drugs that pass through the liver, as is alcohol. They both can cause damage and the damage can be reversed if not to the point of cirrohsis. I agree with what you wrote there, but don't see how it's relevant to my comment.
It was a general statement I wanted to emphasize... Steroids are less harmful than some FDA approved foods...It was irrelevant to your comment. I guess I didn't realize to note that sorry buddy lol...
RustyhookerBiggest problen is most folks dont blood test. Personally I've had better gains running shorts as boost in beginning of cycle. Orals ran when the long Esters havent even started for wasn't as good. If its a test based long ester run, bump test prop or frontload. Then the finishers can be used, changed or shelved towards end of cycle. Was goals attained where a finisher will do its best?
Orals like Winny unbind test thru sbh reduction. So why hit Winny when its not even unbinding? Example--
I don't like to assume anything. U get mid-cycle labs done and they show your liver has indeed recovered, then go for it. Otherwise, absolutely not.
Absolutely, I have every intention to have the proper blood work done for every cycle... We've discussed my next cycle via PM, this is just a theoretical question for a possible winter bulking cycle... Thank you for you input gearhead, It's always a pleasure to read.
Its up to your liver at that point LOL
Oral kicker
Oral taper
Not completly Unheard of, especially for those who compete...needing finisher at the end
It's all about you body and liver values. 4 weeks dbol on your liver could be fine and stay close to normal range when 4 weeks and mine and test levels show that of an alcoholic(exaggeration but you get the point)
Never ran Orals like this so I'm just speaking from research hopefully others can weight in their .02 cents
Thanks bro, I knew it couldn't be unheard of... I just didn't know how the vets would feel about it... I didn't want to plan my winter bulk and have two sets of orals and people go nuts... I really like to get the approval of the community so I have that second layer of confidence in what I'm doing and how it's impacting me and my life.
Well pm a vet with
Goal
Cycle log
Trained reg
Etc
Then post up on cycle log and see how community can help, it's what the site is about, the sources and promos are just a perk!
10-4, I already have my summer/comp cut starting tomorrow.. just wanted to get the winter cycle set up.. think about the long haul... just wanted some opinions prior. And again thank you.
This would depend on your dosages and compound ran. Also your cycle history
LOL that's a no brainer bro... thanks for the input.
We'll you didn't say what, for all I know it could be oral tren and halo lol
lmao very good point my friend