Cycle
5'11, 180lbs, 31 y/o.
250mg test E e3d (500 total) (16 weeks in at 250, 3 weeks in at 500 p/w)
100mg primo e3d (200 total) (12 weeks in, titrate)
200mg EQ e3d (400 total) (10 weeks in, titrate)
150mg deca e3d (300 total (14 weeks in, titrate)
25mg tren A ed (150 total) (1 week in)
50-75mg adrol ed PWO (4-5 week run)
5-10 iu Humalog, PWO (follow a strict protocol with this, beta cell/resistance, titrate)
2-3 i.u. HGH UGL PWO
.25mg arimidex 2x a week (as needed, though pretty leery of "rebound" so stay on schedule or lessen dose even, esp. w/ EQ and Primo onboard)
.125mg (about half a full dose) prami ed (titrate)
30mg ralox ed
2.5-5mg nolva ed/eod (have heard multiple theories on how this interacts with 19-nors, some claim anecdotally it's fine, others the opposite)
(have some lighter prolactin/progesterone induced gyno "nip buds" from not managing estro as efficiently from previous cycle, so simultaneously reducing it, which is working, slowly).
Recovering from major surgery, I'm 10 months out (though only 4-5 of actually working out), definitely not my first cycle pre or post the operation, I'm around 2-3 lighter cycles post surgery, started out at about 125lbs, at death's door, anemic, fun stuff... since recovery, mostly using TRT test, lower dose npp and anavar. Been cruising on 125-250 test mainly, depending on my bloods and recovery needs.
3-4k calories a day"ish", 200+ protein... I don't have intestines (large) so this is why I supplement with gear and the amounts I posted (slin helps alot with the nutrient partitioning/absorption, same with tren and HGH), multicompound, relatively lower doses, feed off the synergy. Seen pieces of research and broscience claiming it works, and anecdotally, well... I've gained over 55lbs of primarily muscle (though a bit of rebound weight, undoubtedly) but hey, I'm seeing results similar to my old "blasts" (500mg Tren A, 500 NPP/deca, 600 test) and staying much healthier for much longer cycles... seems like a win. Thoughts?
TL;DR I'm trying to get back to where I was pre-surgery, but I don't want to put my health in unnecessary jeopardy doing your standard blast. I also don't want to spend a year or two getting back to where I was "naturally"... so, I'm trying a happy medium, compounded longer-term sports TRT type of doses... of course, this is always up for debate as to what is "TRT" relevant... for me, these doses are pretty minimal compared to where I was at.. this is my version of an expedited process, while staying healthier.
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Hot damn that’s a lot of gear. Maybe less is more? Why blast so hard?
DiogenesLanternAlot of compounds, but overall it's less than your typical blast. The key for me was finding a combination of gear that works well together... tren works for everything, but is not overall healthy even at lower doses... but it's something I see good results with so the lesser of evils.
That’s a messy cycle why over complicate shit and I would remove the 5-10 iu thing from your post as you can’t talk about that here
DiogenesLanternHey Stokes,
what makes it messy? Its pretty low doses and everything is synergistic from my understanding. If a person is used to a more basic run of maybe 3 compounds max, I can see how it would seem like alot. Primo is pretty safe, so is Deca and EQ (400 is a mild dose, most run it at 600-900). The tren is lowish though adequate. I'd say the only overkill is the adrol, but health markers seem to be holding up towards the tail end here (50mg is pretty standard). I'm sure you know all this but just wanted to reiterate some things... thinking out loud I suppose.
Thanks for the feedback though, let me know what in particular you think is bad about it (other than tren and adrol, which aren't healthy for longer periods of use, if at all).
anvilNot sure what you are asking or saying. Seems like a boatload of stuff. Can you clarify what you are asking or is this a statement?
DiogenesLanternDefinitely seems like alot, I know.
Really just looking for insight, criticism, if anything seems off/unnecessary/problematic what have you.
anvilI would recommend just Test/Primo HGH and maybe 200 Deca if you really needed it, seems like your experienced so you know what works for you but A-bombs definitely drop, tren A drop.
DiogenesLanternGood recommendation. I was actually doing test/primo... but, primo takes a while so I decided to throw in the EQ and up the NPP to Deca. I figured I might as well try the EQ/Primo combo. The deca is for joints and that additional size/strength. EQ for appetite and endurance (vascularity is nice too).
I was hesitant to throw in tren and adrol, I've had flare ups of "gyno" from them in the past, but, since I'm keeping the tren so low and staying on top of ancillaries I decided to throw it in for a synergy with hgh and slin (helps with IGF-1 from my gathering). Other than the prolactin/progesterone issues, the drol is in there because, well, it's drol ;). wondering why to drop it though? You seem pretty set on it. You've got me curious and definitely appreciate the insight.
anvilI was concerned for your health.
DiogenesLanternLDL is high (as expected), BP normal, thank you for the concern though, health is definitely a good reason to drop anything. So far so good though.
I should add more preventatives/maintenance, NAC, berberine (sp), etc... I'm at that point where I should.
Your profile doesn’t resemble the above info:
Last Seen: 03/27/24
Since: 1 Hour 52 Min
Born: 10/02/1974
Weight: 240
Height: 5'11
Body Fat: 13%
Maybe this was your pre surgery condition? You’ve got a bit younger though too, so it’s a bit confusing?
DiogenesLanternI was much bigger, more like 225 give or take. The HGH changed my age apparently.
I'm 31 though, promise ;)
He’s also got stuff in there we only discuss in Advanced Cycle forum.