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What's up bros .. Was going to run bold cyp for 1st time with compound .. Thinking 3x a week pins at 750 mg a week x10 weeks .. Would u run the cyp like equi at 16 weeks or since shorter ester 10 weeks would be sufficient .. Also running 750 sus x3 pins a week and test prop 300 mg a week .. Never ran the bold b4 but still deciding if 10 weeks would be enough to get good results or just numb up the weeks ... Who's real familiar with the compound

BigThing's picture

I like to keep things simple and this is relatively simple cycle ( just 2 compounds - test on bold) that looks a little more complicated than it should in my opinion. If I understood your cycle correctly you want to run over a gram of test a week (750 sust and 300 prop). I don't think you really need that much. More is not always better, plus you're mixing different esters there so this is another maybe unnecessary complication. Make sure your blood lovels are at steady levels and plan your pct accordingly. I also believe that there is no need to pin bold cyp 3 times a week. 2 should be fine. Finally, don't expect huge mass gains on Bold. It will increase your appetite but from what I read you don't have problems with appetite and consuming enough food. Bold will give you nice quality gains but it will be steady but rather slow gains. Also for the same reason this compound is designed for longer cycles to fulky take advantage of it. If you're planning to run a short 10 week cycle, maybe you should look into faster acting products such as npp and leave the ones like bold or primo for longer runs. If you're putting it in your body, then at least take advantage of the full potential of that given product. Just my .02

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Ya I see what u mean no need for 3 pins I'll probably just save the bold and will debate the test after I change diet and training regime and stop the dame cardio more and give more rest days to eat like a fat ass ...thanks everyone who has been helpful much appreciated!

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I'll try to get a pic on soon got called into work early today didn't have time .. Also system was was a pain in ass when I first attempted to kept giving me an error issue that I need to figure out y

Drloomis's picture

Sorry Im with rusty on this.. if you're 150 lbs you're gonna take over a gram of test, why even throw in the prop, there is prop in sustanon dude. Basically you're small and wanna take 2 grams total gear instead of get on a better training program. Im not trying to be rude I just question the truth behind a guy 150 lbs eating 7500cals a day when most of us would be puking from that much food. If you start pinning 2g of gear in your tiny frame you're prolly gonna ruin your internal organs man. too much gear.

Vick404's picture

And the prop is small doses to maintain the prop in the sus since its low mg at 30 mg/ml ..

Vick404's picture

Ur not being rude just straight forward .. That's something I can work with like I said I don't mind negative critique as long as it's benefiting me to grow .. New training regime sounds good as well .. That's ur input and I can agree with u as well .. Ur not be a dick like others just trying to run their mouth .. And thanks for Input much appreciated ..I will look into different training methods unless ppl want to help out on that feel free my ears are always open to something new

Goose24's picture

Why do you always have to be a dick dude? How about instead of insulting the guy why don't you help him out? It's not like he's 25 or younger and it sounds like he's open for advice. You need to step off your soap box kid.

Vick404's picture

Didn't run the tren ended up selling it .. My pics are up in profile .. Unless u want a new one .. Ya I've always been 115-120 since high school ate like all the line man or more and never gained a lbs ..

Goose24's picture

You're doing great bro. There's some good advice been throw at ya minus the one who didn't offer anything up. They are correct though if you want to add more size then you're going to have to cut that cardio out. Eat like a horse man every meal when you feel full eat more and more. Also there's honestly no need to have a 2 hr workout. 1 1/2 hrs in you're about spinning your wheels and not going anywhere and it's actually counter productive. Just focus on eating food bud. I honestly would just recommend a test only cycle again and try to make more gains that way before adding anything else to the mix. Good luck Smile

MedDx's picture

Stats
Age: 30
Height: 5"5
Weight: 153
BF:

Post BF.
Post cycle history.
Goals for cycle.

Vick404's picture

Bf 9% post cycle hist 750 sust 3x pins a week 1-14weeks test prop 300 mg a week in 3 pins a week , tne 50 mg pre work out hr b4 fist 4 weeks and deca d at 300 mg a week in 2 pins ... Went from 124to 156 .. Lost 3 lbs after pct. nov at 40/40/20/20 clom 100/100/50/50 (2nd run) 1st run was only test e at600 mg a week x 8 weeks didn't get much results think gear was bunk ... Goals are to hit 170 lbs of lean muscle .. I want more size on shoulders ,arms , and legs need lots of improvement.. But d/t a hip replacement and internal fixation on my r femur makes it difficult to do so d/t pain at heavy weights

MedDx's picture

How long since operation? You are still in rehab phase. U need food mainly and minimal dosages if u consider AAS.

change regimen to mod weight and high reps...feel the burn....increase weight as u get stronger.

Modify diet....post.diet please..

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No I had my motorcycle accident when I was 18 .. Did my own rehab cuz I didn't have the money to fund rehab nor would I put that strain on my parents at that time .. Diet is 7,000-7,500 cal a day .. I have a really high metabolism (genitics ) already running low weights and high reps but r leg is still behind the left ... This go I wanted to increase appetite with the bold because I'm not hungry as it and I work night at hospital so it's hard to have my 5-7 meals cuz u don't get much time a nurse to eat .. But I'm trying .. Gym 6 days a week 2 hrs each time sometime 3-4 hr on days off from work ..

MedDx's picture

Thats total bunk...lmao..u can eat when u go to the break room...i used to eat 2500 calories working 7p7a before 0100 hrs in the morning. I would do another 1000 before i left. And, then when i got home i would do 800 cal before.bed..so u can do it...try doing it without any AAS first...see where ur at in 6 weeks with diet only...

irongame427's picture

bold cyp didnt give me the crazy appetite that people talk about with eq, i felt a boost but it could have been placebo. When people talk about eq hunger theres no mistaking it.

If youre eating 7500 cals a day and not gaining your have an overactive thyroid that needs to be cut out. Seriously, do you know how much food 7500 calories is? Alot of ifbb pros dont eat that much weighing 280lbs. catalyst posted up a tread yesterday trying to get some new cycle ideas and he posted his cal intake, i believe it was 5500-6000k, and hes weighing 276lbs. I have a fast metabolism i started lifting at 125lbs and im 215 now and im gaining steadily on a little over 4000. You MAY hit 7000 one day then the next youre so full and digestive system so backed up you hardly eat. 4000 calories a day should be more then enough for you to grow at 150lbs. I just find it hard to believe youre eating that much.

Vick404's picture

I will look into my diet more and have one of the nutritionist here at hospital go over it then will post

MedDx's picture

Good idea. No NGT or tube feeds...lol..or TPN...

Vick404's picture

Lol I just put a ngt as u sent that post lol .. Maybe some tpn though lol

MedDx's picture

Lol...did u confirm placement with air bolus and stethoscope? Did u chart that...lol:)?

MedDx's picture

X2..well.put

Catalyst's picture

7000 calories is A LOT of fiod, assuming it's decent food rather than crap and supplements. I suspect you're including a lot of the latter.

I would totally agree here, if you are genuinely eating that quantity of food then you've got a medical problem, probably hyperthyroidism.

MedDx's picture

Verdammt nicht Leute lesen..:)

Gymjunkie01's picture

Your in the gym way way to much bro

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Vick404's picture

Thanks for input .. Will do 45 min -1 hr intense runs from now on ... Is that better I. Ur opinion.. Not including my cardio though

Vick404's picture

That's probably my issue y .. I run 3-4 miles a day ya I stopped track at tcu cuz motorcycle accident

Gymjunkie01's picture

What's your goal

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Vick404's picture

Weight 170-180( be happy at 170) want my horseshoe on tricep bigger .. I want shoulder bigger .. And I know I have a lot of work on legs .. And I want my bf at5%

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Limit cardio to a min if you have a high metabolism like you say you don't need it its counter productive .. 4 work outs a week and lift hard your done when you feel like you want to puke or crawl away from the weight rack .. And eat when your full eat some more .. Then eat even more .. Get plenty of rest and your grow

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tonytulo's picture

I go a day on a day off sometimes two days off. Being an ecto I need to utilize my rest and food intake. Pretty common sense but no one seems to grasp it.

Gymjunkie01's picture

Exactly I let my body tell me when it's ready to hit the weights

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irongame427's picture

And thats how its done. Simple

Vick404's picture

Thanks I'll do that and post what result I get out of that in a couple of weeks

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Diet is 7,000-7,500 cal a day

You dont have any problems if you can shift that daily.

6 days is fkn stupid, half it.

2hr sessions?............ whats that? Cross fit.... :/

Dacky's picture

Not another ballerina I hope :-p!!!!

Vick404's picture

Always has to be someone to suck someone else off .. Ballerina lol no im not so u don't have to hope much their dacky but thanks for the care .. Get ur dance on !

Dacky's picture

Hahahaha. Easy there tiger. It's a bit of a personal joke and not necessarily directed at you pal. But if the (dancing) shoe fits.....Have a nice life!

Vick404's picture

I know their padwan only messing with u as well idk have u tried the shoe on as well .. Lol

Vick404's picture

Shift what daily guru? Plz explain.. hey bro u work 12-16 hrs days then go work out after and tell me how u feel working all night don't have to be an ass I don't mind being told something in a way that's going to help not just being a ass .. But thanks anyways .. Sorry if I sound like a ass as well long night at work putting up with ppl at work just to hear someone talk shit instead of being informative ..

true grit's picture

Calm down bro! You won't get any help acting that way. I can almost promise you that. He's saying that if you can eat that many calories, then you shouldn't have any problem growing.

Now there could be a problem with "what" you are eating (my adlib )

He's also telling you that lifting 6 days a wk for 2 to 4 hrs a day is TOO much.

That's just my interpretation anyway. I doubt Viking will even bother clarifying it for you which is a real shame for you because he's kinda good at this stuff, to say the least. I'd apologize but that's just me.

Vick404's picture

Also thanks for ur input true grit .. And thanks for not running ur mouth like others just being straight forward

irongame427's picture

Heres what vikes trying to say in regards to your training, 6 daya a week is to much, you aint gonna grow if you keep burning everything you bulld of in the gym. 4 days a week max, And never train two days in a row when your goal is gain pure muscle. Go for the EOD approach. You dont grow in the gym, you stimulate growth in the gym. You need to get in destroy the muscle and get out, your workouts shouldnt take longer then an hour and a half, some days shorter some days a tiny bit longer. Then get out and eat and rest and eat some more. Then eat all day on your rest day. Then you come back fresh for your next workout as youve had the day off before to rest up and eat.

Vick404's picture

Thanks iron this is a response I want to hear .. I do t mind here the negative as well but as long as it to better myself .. I appreciate the input