Best test to run to supplement my TRT
Hey guys I am usually taking 1 ML of test cyp 200 once every other Friday. I have been doing that but doing it weekly instead. I prefer one shot per week as I don't like giving myself shots as I have to all the time. My question is I will always be on TRT as it seems what's a good dose and type test C A E ect... that I can use once a week and just always be cruising with minimal issues? Like I said I prefer one shot per week and i feel 1 ML is good every friday. Should i keep it there and if I want to blast for a month or so do 400? My doctor is usually checking my blood every 4 months, regardless I've been on TRT for two years now. I'm a normal guy 6 foot 240 4 days a week in the gym football player did 6 years in the army ect. I'm active but I am in no way shredded at all, mainly because of diet. I eat okay I just live normally. I just personally love the energy and the boost I get from the TRT, before I started my test level came back at like 80. My doctor thought I was 80 years old and not 26. I went through a lot of testing to figure out why my life was so awful id wake up and fall asleep going to work an hour later. Something in my past messed me up but everything has changed ten fold since my second shot of trt to be honest. With how i feel now I'm willing to do what I need to so I feel this way forever. Ill add i want to take the least amount of shots possible so whatever type i can use every friday morning that's my ritual. Test cyp or Enanthate is where I have landed. Figure id ask here as i wish i was on this forum before i ever touched a damn thing in my life. You guys are great and knowledgeable. Us new guys appreciate all your help. Knowledge is power.
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Molinin302I mean, my best response would be what are you doing? What do you want. You're not doing TRT, and if it was looked at as a cycle it would be on the very weak side. Be honest with us, but more importantly yourself. What are you looking to accomplish?
oh I was 100% on trt at the single every other week dose me I want to get bigger stronger and look better feel better. That's why I turned it into a cycle by going 200 weekly which yes ive read is low most guys say use 400-500 weekly. I am 28 and just want to look and feel better i hit the gym 4 days a week I like to lift. I'm in no means some super serious monster or want to be. at 6 foot 240 im already a decently sized dude i just wanna refine it all.
Work with your doctor. When she asks you to draw blood, when (date and time of day) do you do it in relation to your last injection? Same day? Day one? day 13? Some random day during the two weeks?
Taking 1/2 ml every week would keep your levels more consistent thus making you feel better between injections and not "down" as your levels drop waiting for week twos injection. If the doctor is prescribing you the 1 ml every 2 weeks and called it a day, then get a new doctor. Ask to be referred to an endo specialist.
Going over the normal range (being on a cycle) will cause issues with RBC, cholesterol, BP, etc. Hence, why one cycles off every few weeks. Currently you are on a cycle.
You need to educate yourself more on esters and half-lives. I also suspect there's more to this story then what is being told.
Your TRT doc would have started you out with Clomid therapy. No mention of that.
Also, there's a bit more involved with "dialing in" your dosage that can take months. If you were in the middle of that process, you just fucked that up. Your doctor starts you off low, checks bloods, increases/decreases dose based on how you feel and the new levels, then repeats the process. You have not shared any of that experience with us which makes this all suspect.
I didn't know exactly what to share. Also ya I would say my endo isn't the best hes actually gone now and some other doctor took over for me. I was on 1 shot every two weeks my blood was taken end of week 1 so 7 days in. He talked about clomid first yes. Then decided to go right to TRT. He said nothing works better than the IM injections. As long as i understood the whole maybe not able to have kids ect... I was moved from 1.0 ml to 1.1 Then i was offered the thing that goes in your back with pellets in it. My doctor wanted 12 my insurance said no do 6 to start. My issue is what do i suffer for 3 months on lower dose? To prove I need it from my insurance? Like my doctor wants X but they wont jump there right away.
Clomid is always the best first choice, even if you have to pay for it because insurance won't. I know your motives are to get jacked so I bet that had a lot to do with your ill advised choice.
Bloods after 1 week will show the median not the low. Bloods should be drawn in the morning on the last day before you pin. Doesn't do you any good to be below normal at the end of 2 weeks.
1/2 ml (100mg) weekly shots will be better at keeping your levels more even... research half-lives; be a knowledgeable partner when discussing long term care with your doctor. Don't be a lemming. When drawing blood, do it on the morning of day 6 when your T levels will be their lowest.
HALF-LIFE!!! IMPORTANT!! when you are asked to go in for another blood test you need to know when it's safe to do so. after a few weekly shots of 200mg it won't be out of your system overnight. You risk loosing your TRT status.
You have no business "Blasting" or running a cycle until you know more about the drugs you're playing with. (probably how you fucked up your T count to begin with... prohormones, test without PCT...) Again, going over the normal range (being on a cycle) will cause issues with RBC, cholesterol, BP, etc.
I think this all started a few years ago when I was still in the military drinking 6 monsters a day and I was slapping down like mk115 weird sarm like things I had no idea about. I'm sure it was 100% my fault. I just want to get myself back on track where I need to be and maybe add a little boost in here and there to get some results id like. I constantly am looking up forums and reading I'm trying my best sucks most of the guys here as you read down shit on people as we are not knowledgeable. Guy thinks I'm cat fishing when I'm not. Sure reprimand me for being dumb but don't scare me off when I'm trying to better my knowledge and understanding. Monday I go in for my 6 pellets in the back. I've stopped said Test weekly injections. I assume my best idea here is let this run for the doctor said 2 months then get tested. As the refill in my back is every 4 months. My question would be do I need a PCT or anything while I go from whatever my dumb ass was doing to whatever these 6 pellets will provide me?
No on your PCT question.
That said, Look up the half life, search for it here on eroids, google it, find the half life for your ester, figure out how much you were taking and for how long, you tell me what your levels will be in 8 weeks.
I'm on TRT and have been down this road. I've been straight with you and told you up front why I thought you were not being forthright. I've given you sound advice and info YOU need to follow through on. I'm not the sort to hold any ones hand.
I have now looked at all of that. I spoke with my doctor the pellets I’m going to be getting Monday would only put me at 75 a week when he already has me at 100. They are calling my insurance to get the 12 approved that he originally wanted. I’ve stopped the double dose. Im going to just hunker down try and continue hitting the gym and diet right. My doctor is going to order blood work for me. Im going to get myself straight on my TRT in the correct way before I even think about possibly adding anything more un needed stuff to my body. I appreciate the help and insight. I will report back all my results as they come. I’m hoping I didn’t do anything irreversible doubling my dose for the last 8 weeks.
RustyhookerYou went from 200 every other week to 200 every week? Where is your bloods since you already doubled dose?
Real dr or quack in a box rejuvination clinic?
My real urologist 200 every other took me from 100 to 600 test levels I then went to 200 every week and do not know my current level as I'm not sure what my doctor would say or be mad at me ect..... Obviously I acquired my own test as i would run out early if I doubled my dose. My goal is to get bigger stronger look better ect. That is my reason for the dose upgrade didn't decide to for fun.
RustyhookerSo....youre on cycle for how long now? And no idea of estro , cholesterol etc?
last normal check was 3 months ago since my last DR driven blood work no issues ive only used 2 10 ml test bottes basically doing weekly instead. Is finding a private lab easy? Like i can just show up pay for a test of whatever.
Rustyhooker3months on cycle. Yes... privatemedlabs , etc. Pay for what you need and get it. Female hormone test used to be round 70 and covers it all. Male test was 180.... id go female
roger ya my local lab you can shop tests i guess and just take them i see the male and female ones thank you
Nebido may give you a new lease on pinning, it is a 4ml injection, but never gives any problems, just they issue it in 12-week intervals, usually. If I pin once per month, I have a test level of around 1300, which is now off the charts, but I also get a very high red blood cell count. Remember that 'feeling good' is not always the same as optimal. You will likely have to do private blood testing and sourcing to feel good, doctors can be dogmatic about keeping you at 'safe' levels, which is usually very far from where we feel good. Based on your symptoms, they will probably put up with a bit of increased level, but they can get pissy about things when you continually run above 800; which at your age is not a bad place to be anyhow.
I would be more than irresponsible to tell you how to just keep test flowing even keel, pinning once a week, without saying first to set a safe level and aim for that test level, not feel. Bro science never can match good blood work. Try throwing out a test level where you feel 'happy' and can sleep nights without sweats, irritability, etc., and get feedback on how to safely maintain a level like that year round.
Fair I know my level was like 110 off of it then on 1 ml of test cyp once every other week I hit 600. I usually hit my leg with the shot as my doctor said to sometimes painless then sometimes its like Jesus what did I just hit. I have drawn the lines on the muscle to know where it is ect... sometimes needle goes in no issue sometimes it hurts going in then has pain while it sin and I'm pushing. No blood in asperation ect. I use a 25 g half inch wondering if i should try a 27. As a private lab does that mean i can find a labcorp and just pay out of pocket? My urologist is pretty lazy tbh they have not asked in a long time for blood work. They just keep calling in my bottle. I know my bp is good and such as i have ADHD and my doctor does check me out every month for that as Adderall can effect that.
Molinin302Posting your labwork would help, there's a lot of members here that know how to evaluate the results.
You have now taken your TRT dose of once every two weeks and turned it into a cycle by doubling the dose by doing that same amount every week. If you don't want to run into problems you should be doing only 100mg every week instead if that is the way you want to pin otherwise you will run into health issues by doubling your prescribed TRT dose.
With all that said I am starting to think you are full of shit here. TRT is not medically injected into thigh, you have no clue what you are doing with needles, They don't send you home and say happy pinning without any instruction. Have fun catfishing the other guys. I'm out.
I honestly don't see how you and rusty and others continue to even respond to these clowns lol. I'd rather look down the barrel of a loaded gun then to engage these people. GOD Bless you Mak.
ya well read my reply to him I'm not sure what info to share you can see i proved him wrong. I'm not wasting anyone's time hes just a asshole. Doesn't realize I might not know all the info he needs ect everything he stated was un true.
If you really want I can send you all the info from my doctor paper ect sorry maybe others have cat fished you whatever that means on a site like this. Not sure what that would accomplish. My doctor has be reach down spread the skin a little tight and push in finger up on the end of barrel then I depress to inject. I found when she did it painless entry but sometimes mine is not. Is it the site on the outer thigh maybe or her technique as she's a nurse doctor ect. I don't get the rudeness I guess that's just not me. My goal with a higher dose is to gain muscles get bigger look better gym diet ect... Not just asking should I double it for fun
Well you are wrong. I was show how to draw my meds and the nurse even had me sit down on the medical bed legs hanging off. She had administered my first dose then the next appointment she had me do it all. Outer middle third of the thigh at least where I am is normal. My doctor gave me it there and told me too ect. I was given instruction I'm just asking hey what could cause some pain as I insert the needle. Seems you are being a dick for no reason I've done nothing to you or wrong here. Ask me anything and I will answer you with the truth as it only helps me coming from someone with more experience why would I sit here and lie?
You did better than me there.... I got a script for SUST250, back when Organon was making it and didn't even know what the hell to do with an ampule. Could not buy pins for anything, first set of plungers bought were for ear cleaning, and I ended up at a needle exchange to get kit, but they hooked me up properly and internet taught me to open an ampule with an old school can opener. A few more videos on pinning and I felt instantly better, whether mind or matter, I slept well, lost the night sweats and more bonuses. I was sold on the program then and have loved it. Once or twice, I have used the nurses at the clinic to pin me, just because the script was sent to the surgery and it was as convenient getting pinned there as having my wife do it.... she is a right champ at pinning glutes these days. Quads was a learning curve for me, but I like short esters and that takes a lot of pin points. Boy.... the old Organon SUS250, that was nice kit.