Aromtasing on tren?
Hello all.
Coming to the end of my cycle 300mg teste/300mg tren e (i also chucked 5mg dbol tabs about 20 - 30mg a day mid through cycle, yes that could of been culprit to increase e2, stop that though before BW). The last time i ran tren my e2 was way to high. This time around im getting the exact problem, i was always under the impression there is no possible way for tren to aromatize, but my BW came back the worst ever it has been more the 5 x higher than usual. Im now taking letro my e2 is that bad, 2.5mg ED for the next 2 weeks until the tren is out of my system, than i will cruise on 150mg test e.
Atm im experience no motivation, im lethargic, no sex drive, i dont feel like eating, ED problems, and i know its legit tren every time i eat i sweat balls, ive also had women problems recently we went our seperate ways, i know im experiencing depression from that atm, but i can still push through that with a workout. I go into the gym and its like i dont even want to be there.
My usual AI protocol is 12.5mg a day, i may have to up it 25mg ED when i cycle now.
Is it really possible for tren to aromatize because the last time i ran it, as soon as tren was out of my system my e2 came back within the ranges?
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Brother V can respond for himself if he wants to but I'm just reading what u wrote here. Your AI has nothing whatsoever to do with mitigating 19-nor side effects from Tren.
I don't think getting fancy-schmancy scientific about this adds much and even if I were a pharmacological chemist which I'm not writing in scientific mumbo jumbo isn't gonna help YOU.
On the net you can read nice stuff like "Trenbolone is a PgR ligand with mixed agonist/antagonist activity." Thus it does this that and the other thing . . . .
If you want to learn all about progesterone and prolactin - have at it - I think you should.
What do you mean by "tune your body to using tren?" smh
What do they say in finance - "Past performance is no indicator of future results." Boy, if that ain't true of Tren, nothing is. You haven't had Tren dick? Keep it up and add the word "yet." Tren hasn't put a dent in your pristine blood work. Keep it up, it's coming. I am not flaming you bro at all and if it seems like I am, I'm not.
I just get the feeling u don't yet have enough healthy apprehension about Tren use. You don't need to screw up personally when u have all of us to lean on.
Perfect response and very very true........................... +3
I saw his AI response and just thought SIGH..... in which century will they learn 19 nors cannot be countered by AI use.
Prolactin control?
Sounds like you're in over your head here.
boz1mg caber a week.
All at once or split doses? you must utilise the half-life theory even with combative ancillaries.
Why do we bother with it when its such a bitch on the body?
Will you use it again?
That part made me shake my head...... "Chucked in"............. you make it sound like you where throwing a shake together............ Amateur Attitude.
bozHang on i never had these e2 up the wall problems before when using tren, i got nothing about positive affects from it, euphoria, strong hard look, i could sleep but night sweats, my hard ons could cut through wood.
If i can get my AI right and tune my body now to using tren i dont see why i cant use it.
I wont deny it was stupidity with the dbol, but once upon a time u were an amateur to vitamin, dont sugar coat yourself to be a guru, it took you a long time to get where you are, u live and learn.
lol... sugar coat is exactly what i dont do! thats why my comment pissed you off.
Amateur was regarding your "chucked in" comment son....... i have OCD regarding steroid terminology and fkn hate the terms "chucked" and "thrown in" like its a easter egg eating contest.
Luckily i have not taken offence or this post would be in red and you would have a new tag! but i realise you young pups need to flex your muscles so go ahead and flex away son, this old cunt is a little tougher than you new breed gonads.
Peace out............. VIKING
bozpissed off? i wouldn't give u that gratification.
i go by the saying he who angers you, conquers u. thats my terminiology.
anyway im lucky i have not let your power trip get the best of you, thanks for stating the obvious that you are tougher than me and stronger, i hope it strokes your ego just how u like it.
peace now
You forgot "wiser" and "better looking"................. and oh nearly forgot!............. seeya lol
Fishes and hooks is a bad mix.
Gee bro, that was the most peaceful, quiet ban I have yet seen you do. A new style? Or, are you just in a really good mood today?
I think out of respect he should have at least mentioned your massive wiener.
Lmfao ed are u speaking here say
I've seen it. It's almost as big as mine if I fold mine in half.
Lmfao damn it must be huge then
Lmao at least your not a china man this time :-)
Bro, trenbolone does not aromatize at any dose.
AI's are not much help here at all and should you should be using prami or caber when you run Tren or any other 19-nor like Deca, NPP, etc. to manage prolactin. Tren may cause gyno (progesterone / prolactin based) and Test may causes gyno (estrogen based, and AI mitigated). Two entirely different things.
Anyways, I think you are having trouble with your lab in regards to a false E2 reading while on Tren.
Please read CAREFULLY:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/updated-3-tren-causing-...
I use Labcorp and when on Tren, the E2 reading is through the roof. It is a false reading - the article should explain.
If, after you read, if u have any additional questions, please continue to post.
Oh yeah bro, almost left this out. For some of us (like me) since Tren is the only real psycho active steroid, when u stop you may experience withdrawal or "Tren Crash" in the slang. Not everyone does, for sure, we all react differently to compounds. Major depression can set in. It is temporary. For me, it clears completely in a few weeks.
And finally, when u run Tren, depending on how much for how long it has a tendency to reduce T3. If u do not supplement with T3 and the Tren is lowering your T3, you may experience terrible lethargy to the point that u want to just stay in bed all day u get so tired.
bozAll i know is if it is giving me a false reading, the e2 numbers are the worst they have ever been.
And to make matters worse, how will i ever know which AI protocol will attire to my needs, if its giving me nothing but false readings?
I believe i just need to find the right AI protocol for my tren cycles, if i can do that i should be right, but by the sounds of it 12.5mg aromasin ED just isnt cutting it.
Once i come off the tren though and i cruise, its like i dont even need an AI, my body functions correctly