cliper's picture
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anavar + clen

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is this a good combination to get a little harder and loose some of the abdominal fat

cd1's picture

Clen will leave you feeling flat and almost fully depleted while using it and that mixed with possible side effects on the heart and not being able to shuttle your nutrients fully will not give the desired effect that a good diet mixed cardio can give..

A diet and cardio doesn't always mean that your going to not feel good and have full muscles etc as its all about finding an even balance..

Burn fat from a depleted state first thing in the morning when fasted ....take your BCAA's to help prevent you from going to catabolic and then manage your food for the remaining part of the day...

Then if need be .....use the Var within a cycle to put the ice on the almost finished cake

If you've reached a stall point with your fat burning then mix thing up a little ....carb cycling etc etc ...this is where it starts getting a little more complex as you have to get your body out of homeostasis state and give that all import shock ....cheat meals to spike the metabolism etc etc

Clen should be left alone for sure

PumpDaddy1's picture

No one needs clenbuterol and you really don't need it at all. Clen isn't made for fat loss, its really bad for you and totally unnecessary. I am amazed how quick some people are to use it. If dieting isn't working then cardio, walking jogging should do it.

cliper's picture

a lot of people are using and with females it seems to be popular

cliper's picture

I am already to the point that diet does not help anymore, I cannot starve myself. I went down with diet since last winter like 20 lbs but it is where it stops. I want a harder look

Makwa's picture

What are you down to now?

cliper's picture

I am 220 lbs and the BF is like 10%, I do not see how to get leaner look with diet anymore

Makwa's picture

What is your diet now? Macros and cals? What are you doing for cardio?

cliper's picture

in the morning, green tee, yogurt about 100 calories

lunch small fish and a little rice, some vegetables

some fruit later, protein shake like 200 calories

in the evening like one sandwich maybe 300 calories

I doubt I take more than 1500 calories a day now

Makwa's picture

You have wrecked your metabolism and putting drugs into the equation isn't going to help you now. You are going to have start over and reboot your metabolism. You have to structure your dieting in the future so you don't ruin your metabolism and halt further fat lose. This is how you should be dieting so you keep continually losing fat and don't hit a huge plateau like you have now that you aren't going to be able to overcome.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/structu...

Best suggestion I can give you right now is to reboot your metabolism by upping your cals right away to match your TDEE for the first week and then eat slightly above for another 2 or more weeks. You should actually be able to put on some quality mass during this time and reset your metabolism. Then follow the above protocol to get back on a cutting diet and reach your fatloss goals. Drugs surely aren't going to do much for you now since you have wrecked your metabolism.

cliper's picture

I know something is wrong, mostly is the waistline I try to loose a few inches

I tried to cut on food for the last 2 months with minimum affect

I just need to figure out some good diet and for cardio I push every day

Makwa's picture

I gave you a great plan above. You just ran into a little hiccup here. So just reboot and follow the guidelines I gave you and I think you will see a big difference.

cliper's picture

thanks I will work on this

irongame427's picture

Forget Clen, Google Clenbuterol and the heart and you may rethink your decision to mess with it. I believe you can get the same results by doing enough cardio to burn 10% of you're overall cals, so if you're dieting on 2500 cals you need to burn 250, that's nothing that's like 30mins of low-moderate intensity cardio. I say this because from what I've read Clen boosts metabolism by 10% or so.

7gothic's picture

absolutely.... I wouldn't touch Clen with a ten foot pole.

BigWA67's picture

Ill.b honest here bro I tried doing it what I thought was the easy way I threw a bunch of clen and anavar at my problem belly and guess what I hardly lost shit!! my buddy kept telling me adjust your diet so when did finally change up my diet and added a bit more cardio my belly disappeared you can throw all the drugs at it you want and if your diet isn't on point you spinnin your wheels

cd1's picture

Best combination you can ever use to burn fat..

Cardio and Diet

PPGfreak's picture

No

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vhman's picture

No. diet will help you loose fat, not drugs.
What else are you taking?