posted Sun, 10/27/2013 - 09:37
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Hello. I read through the 101 guide and lurk the forums. So I planned to do a test only cycle, either cyp or enth. I'm 5'10, 184lb, 16% Bf, 40yrs old, never did ph/aas only supps like creatine and such. I've been working out for 15 yrs on/off, but stead for the last 4. My goal is try to mostly to lean bulk, but not at super speed. I need to do it slowly, so it won't get suspicious. So would how much test should I take? I have heard people on 500mg 1st cycle (8wks) and gain between 15-20lbs, and that would be too fast for me as everyone will notice.
Thanks!
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I've heard of ppl running test 500/w and gaining only 5-10 during 12 weeks. It can go either way. I don't think you'll "blow up" off just test bro, it'll just refine your muscles a lil.
If you ran high dose test, deca, and some dbols you'd probably puff up, but just test should make subtle but admirable changes, nothing over the top.
I would suggest test cyp, 500mg/w for 12 weeks, pinning once weekly. Use an AI if needed.
GearofWarIf you want to gain SLOWLY I'd dose between 150-200mg test Cyp EW. I know it's low but when I first started out on TRT even I was dosed at 200mg T-Cyp E2W and I grew. Slowly, but I grew.
Well honestly your doctor would put you on TRT at your age. He would prescribe 1cc of Test cyp or Test E a week. He would also have you take arimidex and HCG. If I was you, I would take 1cc of Test E 2x a week. Then I would recommend 1 arimidex tab EOD. You want to counter the estrogen increase. It may cause acne, bloating, and gyno. Since you have never done anything before, you don't know how sensitive to sides you are. You want to take 500iu HCG 2x a week to keep your natural testosterone production going.
So, divide 500mg to 2 doses a week and take arim eod. I wouldn't gain too fast would it, provided it eat a little above normal maint and not unlimited dirty bulking? Also, is HCG absolutely necessary, or can clomid at PCT work? Doc won't put me on TRT due to my job and I think I'm normal, but on the low end of the spectrum. My biggest thing is to not gain too fast as to arouse suspicion.
No hcg isnt necessary
So you want to do your first cycle?
500mg Testosterone enathate split 250mg monday/thursday for 12weeks
AI
After 3 weeks take a regular dosage of an AI of your choice (either aromasin or arimidex) to keep estrogenic side effects at bay such as gyno/bloat/acne/mood changes like a pregnant woman
PCT
For four weeks duration week1/2/3/4
Clomid 100/100/50/50mg
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20mg
Start PCT 15days after your last injection
Also get a blood test before your cycle to see your normal hormone levels then a few mobths after cycle have another blood test to see if you've recovered.
Here is a very simple cycle plan for you, the gains will be steady for the whole 12week duration so it wont be like gaining 20lbs in 3weeks, you can expect to gain 15-18lbs in 12weeks which isnt noticable at all.
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Sorry, my mistake!!! I meant to put the thumbs up!!!!!
I thought I did it by accident, but it seems I can't thumbs up or neg??????
No bro it wasnt you it was some random fuck whos hiding behind his computer and cant give a reason. to give/take karma you need 50+ karma points
that's perfect! Gaining that amount in 12 weeks natty is more convincing than in 8 or <. Do you or anyone know if the test will cause shin pumps? I need to be able to keep running like about 2 miles weekly. Thanks!
Test has never given me any problems with shin pumps. You should be all set. Good luck!