posted Thu, 09/27/2012 - 15:08
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Ive been doing tons of research on these gangsta mofos and want to hear what some of you guys think.. I know how harsh they are on cholesterol, liver, hair line, ect. I have also read about the awesome size and strenght they put on fast. How many cycles in before you guys even considered using them? What type of gains and were the sides worth the reward? Starting to consider them for my 5th cycle, which I have decided is going to be a epic bulk cycle. Im either going to kick it off with 50mg abombs or 50mg dbol with sust and deca. Really looking for Cdaddy and fast to chime in on this one.
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Whatever u decideto take drol or dbol. Make sure u taper up to gauge ur sweet spot. Don't need to over dose and waste gear. And when ur reFy to come off taper down so u don't experience a crash or fall flat. When I started using this little trick it saved me the plateau effect I used to get after every drol or dbol cycle. By the time u start tapering dbol/drol the prop kicks in and you won't notice the crash as bad.
IMO if your "bulking" go with dbol, drol is more for "mass". If you're going with drol start on a lower dose (30mg) to gage your tolerance and retention, it can blow a motherfucker up quick and you may not want to carry that much water
My .02
its nuts I see some guys hitting 100-150mg ed...Im sure ill try them later on but will be sticking to dbol...thanks for all the input guys
Doesn't matter what "some guys" are doing bro, when trying out new compounds, especially one as toxic as anadrol, always eire on the side of caution. You may fine a lower dose is all YOU need
...and as always I would recommend a prop kicker instead of an oral
My .02
First time I ran dbol I ran 20-30 mg a day and everyone said it wasnt enough, well It worked for me. When I do hit abombs Ill start at 25mg just to see how my body reacts. I have became a prop whore...
I've run dbol @ 30mg per day. Dose worked fine for me. Any higher and I overheat to a point where I can't function properly.
smallguyProp kicker = safer on the body. Orals = quick gains and quick loss of gains and sides. *Theoretically speaking from research, not experience.
With a kicker you need to see the whole picture and goals. Prop gives huge variety for finishers. Tbol will give dry solud gains but then IMO, no 17aa finishers. Dbol for me worked great at 15Mg split thru the day, so advise this:old pharma dbol was crazy strong....start low or have issues. Havent run drol yet nor intend to. So overall ya gotta be ready for any kicker, goals, sides and have the brains to adjust. Plan out a proper cycle including finishers if needed. Don't just throw things in for cool factor. At my height i dont need huge wet mass gains whereas a 6ft tall dude going to compete should know food mass gainers and gear/sides fully as well as recovery.
DP
A bombs can easily yield a 20lb gain in a 4 week time frame but after that the results levels off. Huge jumps in strength and size could be expected also. There is no doubt about the side affects but on a mg to mg basis a bombs blow a way dbol. The question is are you willing to deal with the side effects that are guaranteed to come along with this compound. If you are going to use a bombs then my suggestion and please take my advice is do heavy research on the side affects and the best way to control them.
Id be pumping the liv.52...my major concern is the bloat, even on dbol I get moon face and swell. I hear the bloat from abombs is insane even with AI.
cdaddy7Here's an option to consider....test p for weeks 1-4 with a TNE blast on workout days or you can run it everyday...it is the closest to Dbol that u can get without taking it in my experience....the other is Tbol but It's not going to have the significant strength change like Dbol, but you won't have the bloat that either.....you have to find what's best for you and sometimes thats a trial and error thing...the doses may very to find the sweet spot
Never thought of that one, TNE the bloat would be significantly less. Nice thinking outside the box +1
dbol will retain more water than a bombs. I never really had a major problem with water retention but keep sodium low. Look at everything you eat and drink, you will be surprised the amount of sodium there is in products. Also arimadex is key, average is.5mg/eod but you can go up to 1mg per day if necessary. Between the 2 a bombs are king but another route is tbol. Way less water retention more quality gains and that should be ran at 50mg/d for 6 weeks as it is not as liver toxic.
are tren strength gain similar to A-bombs or do the Abombs blow tren away?
Anyone have experience with both? This is just out of curiosity.
I've used both many, many times. I find that Dianabol is not as bad as far as side effects but at the same time doesn't give the massive results Anadrol does. So in general, I prefer Anadrol. That said, a big difference is that Dianabol can be a great mood enhancer, almost like a happy pill, lol for many users, myself included which makes it better for someone prone to depression. Anadrol on the other hand, makes you feel like total shit the entire time you are on it both mentally and physically.
whats the strength comparison from abombs to tren?
Anadrol is better for bulking with incredible water retention. Tren cant compare in that aspect but, Tren is honestly a game changer. Tren can transform your body in very short order toward what most people consider a desireable physique as far as much lower bodyfat. The strength gains from Tren are far superior to Anadrol as well, despite the fact that Anadrol gives big time gains in strength. As far as psychological effects, Anadrol depresses the hell out of me. Tren doesnt do that as much but gives me massive panic attacks and psychological disturbances. Your basically talking about two bad ass compounds with severe side effects.
cdaddy7Consider this deca bulker..
Week 1-4 Dbol 50mg/day
Week 1-14 Sust @750mg/wk split doses
Week 1-12 Deca @600mg/wk split doses
Week 14-16 Test P @150mg/EOD
Arimidex .25mg e3d or Aromasin 12.5mg EOD staring no later than week 3
Start PCT 3 days after last Test P injection
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
This was my exact cycle plan...The only diference I was thinking was
week 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
week 1-16 sust @ 750/ split 3 250mg each week
week 1-14 deca @ 500-600/split wk
and always finish with prop
Aromasin 12.5 ed and caber .5mg e3d
Been doing research after our last talk and I will change all my pct
100/100/50/50
40/40/20/20
also hcg 250iu x 2 weekly
I bloat like a fat girl so I start aromasin after 5 days on dbol. The bloat is one of the reasons I steered away form a-bombs and My fucking hair is fantastic!
Longer isnt better bro. Will let others add......
Just wanted to get the full deca effect...Thanks for the input. Last cycle was test e and eq for 16 weeks and it did level off and get old. Wont start till Jan so have time to tweak. Again thanks guys!
cdaddy7Deca at about 10-12 weeks is longer enough in my book....but everyone is different
12 weeks it is..shit cheaper for me to.
cdaddy7See thats awesome bro...u know ur body....so important...glad we were thinkn on the same lines...and I see that HCG too....excellent my man....u didn't need my help bc u already had a great plan!!!
I still be hitting you up for diets info
cdaddy7Absolutely bro....u hit me up anytime
Caber mandatory
Caber,prami(which im not a fan of) and aromasin is always on hand. Also have letro stocked just in case.
cdaddy7ABSOLUTELY Fast!!! I left that out bro!! Thanks for having my back on that!! I was just about to have you come check my six..LOL
Layout looks good. Add one more week to the prop taper. Sust has that uber long ester. Definite great bulker! Sust will have a faster kick in with the shorts
cdaddy7I like A-bombs ok...they are harsher on me than dbol but they have their place...I am a huge fan of dbol bc it gives me strength and size(water weight) overnight it seems...It toys a little with my BP but when I start my beta blocker on week3 then I level out just fine...If my BP gets too screwy then I use a little beta blocker to bring it within normal limits...Now Abombs seem to jack my BP thru the roof and activate my aggression more and they def are on the hair line reduction committee...I also dont like the bloat in comparison with Dbol...I just love to kickstart my cycles with dbol bc they make me feel good with my mood and workout and they just crutch me until my oils kick in and I crossover...I just stay away from Abombs bc I am bias to dbol and it always gets me where I want to be in 4 weeks at 50mg a day...That my take on it DBOL all the way
Dude fuckin Anadrol is the shit!! IMO.
Its one of my favorite roids. Best pumps best strength gains and overall super FULL look!
Unless you're fat you'll just look fatter. Lol but it turns me into a MONSTER! only sides I get osiris slight
Rise in Blood Pressure. Have ran it with 5 cycles or more. I'm losing count. Lol
Where'd u get urs from? pm me if u don't feel comfortable on forum
cdaddy7No SRC talk in forum...Take it the pm...Thanks my man
My bad
cdaddy7It's all good my man...just don't want the mods getting on to u
preciate it
I just read your post of standing overhead presses with 300lb...Good shit bro!
Don't forget it was also behind my head! Lol
It's nuts last week I was getting tired after just doing 225 but damn that shit kicks
In fast. Also why I love it fast strength gains!
And 5th set...gangsta bro.