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1st time taking steroids

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I'm naturally a small person. i am 5'8" and weigh 155. I work out at least 5 days a week and am active everyday. I'm wanting to get bigger but do it the safest way possible using anabolic steroids. Any suggestions for my first time using?

clockwork's picture

first thing you should do is read this: http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/are-you-ready-...

next if you truly think you are ready and youve done your research and on top of all of that, have an experienced member you can count on to ask questions and help you plan a cycle and keep you safe. look at this: http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-time-cycle-...

Ducati 848's picture

Okay check it. I may be 24 and young but I'm no fool! I'm in the military and train hard. I have the type of body in which I can eat all I want and anything I want and do not gain much weight. I workout at least 4 days a week. I was asking a simple question and it seems only a couple people take it seriously. I know this is a serious issue and is why I asked from experience instead of researching which is what I will do anyways but experience is everything with anything you do. The link that was sent to me in the 1st or 2nd comment helped out alot.

BeastMode5085's picture

don't take it personally, it all comes from a good place but the vets on here just want you to be safe... and historically, you will do what you want to do so the vets get jumpy to try and keep you safe. IMO you need try and increase cals (weight gainers, more carbs, eat more frequently) and lift sets of 8 (to promote muscle gain).

If you're dead set on getting AAS, which I can tell you are, then I would start with 500mg of TestE or Cyp per week. 2 shots divided on Mon/Thur at 250mg/Pin. Make sure you have an AI on hand, arimadex or aromasin preferably. Most important is make sure you have your PCT (clomid and nolvadex)... run the test 12 weeks, get off for 2 then begin PCT for 4 weeks.

No one is trying to be an ass, just don't think that AAS is going to be the magic liquid, cuz it won't. It still takes a great diet and kick ass training to get anywhere. Good luck pm me if you have questions

Gixxer151's picture

+1 that was great advice and great way to tell it .

rsp2000's picture

Whats your training history? And routine?

That will help answer this question

Steroids wont make you big - if that was the case - 100% of Roid Heads would be huge and not fat and watery

IrishMack's picture

Speaking of McDonald's you can eat some of their items; like the grilled chicken, 380 calories and 4 grams of fat Blum 3 Blum 3

BeastMode5085's picture

why even say that?

BeastMode5085's picture

i didn't neg you and maybe some people talk about that in the open forums but this kids asking for help. Your numbers are ridiculous but someone may take it seriously.

BlackDoug's picture

Ill give this one back but it's not a fuckin joke when dealing with newbies! Some kids just don't know any better period. Unless you've conversed with them and have a good feel of what kind of mentality you're dealing with don't tell these kids what they want to hear. Tell them what they need to hear. Some are just looking for the go ahead and they'll run anything. A test ONLY cycle is recommended for a first time cycle. One compound at a time bro. Lets help keepem safe OK. If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem! Which are you gonna be?

Ducati 848's picture

Thanks newchappter the link was very helpful. Also I thought that being only 24 maybe grygst72 is right about waiting to take juice, although I eat like a horse and my metabolism is crazy fast. I have ate 6 small meals a day plus weight gainer and only gained 5 lbs out of it. Not worth the effort in my opinion. What's my best option without using steroids? Test booster?

Strangelanguage's picture

In what amount of time did you gain the five pounds? Thats a pretty solid gain imo

IrishMack's picture

If you have a high metabolism use a product called Serious Mass to boost your calories up. Add in creatine and take Stinging nettle root and Avena Sativa. I'm not trying to change your mind about juice believe me but at your age you are still producing some high levels so take advantage of it. If you want to try anything take some orals to start like Tbol Anavar or Winstrol. they are not too bad at killing your balls and you can get a good feel for what to expect from juice although not as strong. Do lot's of research so you truly know what you are getting into. 1 false move in this game and you will be shooting for the rest of your life my friend; ask some of us how we know lol.

crayon's picture

Oral only cycles do kill your libodi and testosterone even mild ones such as the ones you listed. Iv heard alot if guys running just anavar cycles and come back complaining of the usual low libido and crashed T levels. Dont advise oral only cycles. PERIOD.

IrishMack's picture

If not taken mildy like I said. Any steroid is gonna kill your nat test but at least with an oral as mild as the ones I listed he wont have a harder time bouncing back as long as he doesn't take double the recommended amount like some people do.

crayon's picture

Taking orals without Testosterone as a base means your natural testosterone is supressed and there is nothing given to replace it. So the user is going to suffer the Low Testosterone Symptoms such as low libodi, lethagic all the time, and other bad side effects. Which is why its HIGHLY advised to always use testosterone as a base to any cycle. And dont even get me going on how hard it is to keep any gains from a oral only cycle.

IrishMack's picture

@24 you should wait imo before juicing. You still have a few years left of natural test levels higher then us old farts. Look into your diet; Switch to 4 days a week in the gym and lift heavier; I believe if you are in the gym 5 days a week all you are doing is endurance lifting. I'm not an expert but from what I gathered and read 4 days is enough as long as those 4 days you are smashing the weights. I grew more when i watched my diet and went to the gym 4 days then 5.

BlackDoug's picture

My first suggestion would be since you are only 24 at 155lbs would be to change your diet. At 5'8" you could put on 15 to 20 pounds just by eating more frequently and increasing your protein and carb intake. Even with a small frame I believe that 170# is achievable. If you're still interested in cycling then do some research on this site. Familiarize yourself with the lingo. Checkout what others have ran and come back and post your cycle, AI, and PCT to be critiqued. Here's a great place to start: OK the first link didn't work so try this 1! There is a plethora of information if you read the yellow stickies.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/how-to-run-a-cycle

Rasputin_Omega's picture

We need full stats homie

Age
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Height: 5'8"
Weight: 155

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