posted Fri, 01/12/2024 - 04:13
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19-Nor's and bloodwork
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So for my next Cycle I am debating on using a 19-Nor like NPP. Now I know NPP has an effect on Prolactin. What other bloods should be pulled along with the "normal" bloods.
- Prolactin
- What about Progesterone?
When taking a 19-Nor should Bloods be pulled at the normal times? Does anything change with that or bloods are pulled at the typical times and after taking Caber to dial in?
As of now Im looking at:
400mg Test Cyp
250mg NPP
(Aromisin will prob be needed after week 3 if I have same results as this cycle)
(Caber on hand in case my nips are having a squirt party)
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I am currently ~75% of the way through my first ever bulk on gear. Using ~300mg/wk of NPP. Here’s my prolactin at the half way point. Don’t take caber but do take P-5-P daily. Am planning to post the before and after pics and thoughts on compounds when I’m finished. I think you’ll really enjoy NPP. I have loved it.
Also think it might be smart of me to do another cycle of just pure Test again to make sure I nail down my body reaction to Test alone. I usually feel everyone jumps into more compounds before really getting Test under their belt.
Pure test and at most look at proviron. Makes a smaller cycle have extra boom by lowering sbgh. Its really as simple as roids aid in recovery. So gym and foods are the real deal. Quicker recovery. Grow.
Good advice JR....boom!!! Remember that? You still say the same things lol.
1000% certain
Definitely, but to be fair it’s still solid advice. I don’t drink beer, but I kinda want to have a beer with the guy, ya know? Sit outside on a plastic busket, nest to the aquarium and car transmission in the front yard. A tiny staticky radio playing music, some franks on the grill. But great weather. There’s always great weather, and cold beers.
Damn that does sound good I gotta admit. But let's not forget the dumpster that all those beers are tossed in haha...get it?!!
We all miss those famous Garbage Wars lol
Lmao
Hey Ross...if ya know ya know. Dude's a trip man.
I’m not convinced totally yet but we’ll see lol
Lol I wasn't either until.....umm yeah I'm certain now for sure. Some things never change...lol its hard for a leopard to rearrange its spots!
That is always a great idea. I was on TRT dose test alone for 2 years before even increasing my test dose, let alone adding compounds. My doc started me at 200/wk and it was way too much (1800s), so I personally titrated down to the 125-140/wk range, then stayed there for a solid year before trying 300mg/wk, and then eventually trying additional compounds.
I was going to look into P5P. Ive also was reading a few studies on B6 I think around 300-500mg Im curious about reading more.
Pyridoxine is a form of B6 and is the one used in clinical studies showing suppression of prolactin. IIRC it doesn’t cut prolactin down that’s already elevated, but if used from the start, it can keep prolactin from increasing from where it’s already at. I started taking P5P a week before starting my NPP.
250mg of NPP and you may not need caber, especially if you control your estro properly. Before taking caber I would get a blood test to see if you actually need it, unlike aromasin where you take it first and then get a blood test to see if you need to dial it in better. Just add prolactin to your regular on-cycle bloodwork and time bloodwork the same as usual and if needed then introduce caber.
That was my plan. Just wanted to make sure that was correct. Im def not just taking caber. I wouldn't do anything without bloodwork. Bloodwork I always do and do prob more than needed but Im one of those if youa re going to do it might as well do it correctly especially when some compounds are your first time.
Yea prolactin and progesterone and I think it depends if you have all the money in the world or if you want to do the bare minimum. For the bare minimum I’d do the basic hormone panel plus prolactin and then if you wanna do the whole thing, then you could add prolactin, progesterone, Lh, FSH, SHBG and I think that’s everything. And timing I don’t think needs to change at all. And then if you feel you need caber and want to get checked after taking it to see if your leveled out, I’d wait at least like 6 plus days after taking the caber, because it lasts kinda of long so you’d want to give it time to work and everything. Also when taking the caber you want to take it once and then wait three days to see if it’s working before taking more. You don’t want to dose a bunch every single day because you think it’s not working and then boom, you’ve taken too much
Good information brother. Bloodwork is key for sure.
Yea I had that feeling with Aromasin/Adex the first time taking it. Some people made it sound like symptoms went away immediately and I didn't want to keep popping them like skittles. I had to be more patient and wait 2-3 days.
Thanks for the reply.
I think with the Aromasin you’d want to actually continue to take it while waiting for it to work because it should be working early on but you may have needed more of it. But with the caber that first dose may have been enough but you won’t know till the second or third day, that’s why I’d take it and then not take more till the third day but with aromasin I’d take it till I was better. I don’t know much but hope that gives you a little info