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Its far from impressive but this is the best I've ever looked, compared to the 150 pound lanky kid that looked 16 still at 28 I'm transformed from a year of cycling and training my ass off, although inconsistently. (Got divorced this year, and some other negative shit that threw me far off the path)
Physical things aside, I think testosterone has given me a massive boost in confidence and mental fortitude. I dont think I could have recovered mentally from this year so quickly without it.
Its time to come off and damn its hard, I'm sure a lot or you can relate to that fear of shrinking, losing progress and so on. Gotta be done, I want to do this right and be properly jacked some day.
Any advice is welcome.
God bless and be kind to yourselfs bros.
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To many mirrors in the gym and eyes peering all around you. You have what most men have in the gym and it's what called reverse anorexia. Its a condition of the mind playing tricks on you.
Stop worrying about what everyone else thiABOUT YOU! YOU! Your the one who has to live with yourself for the rest of your life. And if you don't want to come of steroids than at least stay on low amounts of Testosterone and clomid HCG for 2 weeks. Cruise for awhile and wear sweatshirts and cover up if your so vain.
By the way, I used to get ragged on by my friends. They used to tell me, Hey, mark, you're losing. Weight They knew that this would get underneath my skin, and I knew I wasn't losing a bunch of weight, but they would like to say it anyways. Cuz, they knew it would get to me. Don't worry about what they think.
robinmoron23Sounds like you've been through it, man. It's good you're prioritizing the kids thing; that's a smart move at 28 . A full PCT might be the way to go given your goals. I had low test levels naturally too, so I get the temptation to stay on something. Just remember to keep checking in with your doc and stay on top of your health. Good luck with everything!
I know what you’re going through. Just plan your next cycle and keep building. Myself I’m coming to a 16 week cycle end of test and primo, started first 18 days with sdrol. Weeks 5 to now with var. have had great results with this cycle. My concern being I don’t know if I’ll have legit primo anytime soon. I know some sources carry it but confidence is low in the quality given the supply issues on the other side of the pond.
Anyhoo, the 2 month cruise will suck but I’ve already planned my next cycle which I’m excited about lol.
Out of interest - when things got messy with your ex did she throw your steroid use at you and say its changed you into a different person or was that left out for once lol?
Literally never came up, I have basically 0 temper, even Tren just made me a massive buttercup that cried at cute animals and always wanted affection lol
Those hormone fluctuations are something aren’t they? I would go from “roaming the halls looking for raw meat” to crying at children’s movies.
Damn I would have cuddled you then Lol
A breakup is always great motivation to get in the gym. Keep at it bro.
Coming off would be the smart thing to do if you don’t plan on continuing to cycle every chance you get. Discipline and staying motivated will be key once you’re off. The good news is you’re not beyond your generic potential so with good diet and training you will hold all the muscle you gained. The only thing you’ll lose is water and some glycogen.
Great progress for a year.
Congrats on your transformation and journey so far. I hopped on test after my divorce and haven’t looked back. At your age it’s advisable to do proper pct. Do you have the necessary for this already? Yes you will lose gains and likely feel low but best for your health and natural test production. When you’re older and have had kids (if that’s what you want) then considering blast and cruise permanently (or before going on trt permanently) is a way to go. Most importantly keep training and eating enough to maintain as much muscle mass as possible before your next blast.
Yes i have 10,000 iu of hcg x2 in the freezer, piles of nolvadex and clomid, a few baggies of aromasin
I could do a pretty aggressive pct, however I have been blast and cruise the past 14 months and i used eq among other things which i hear shut ya down pretty hard, and my pre T use levels were in the high 200's on one test and low 300's on the next. I do want kids with my new girl in about 2 years.
When I said come off i should have said, go to cruise, but you got me thinking about the full pct now.
If you’re only 28 and want to have kids in 2 years then that should be your priority. Proper pct and then blast and cruise when you’re done having children. Plenty of time to enjoy gym, gear and gains in the future.
Agreed. It’s best to cycle on and off prior to having kids. And not 14 month cycles lol. Maybe 1 12-16 week cycle a year so your body has a good 8-9 months to recover each year. Then after kids B&C all you want. I didn’t do that. I B&C’d for years until I was about 30. Came off, knocked my wife up twice. My test levels never recovered during the 5 years I was off, which I expected after being on for so long. Had zero sex drive the entire time I was off. That was the worst part. It really sucked during a time when the wife is expecting you to perform daily to get her pregnant. So be smarter than I was lol. Not always easy to do as a guy in your 20s.
Although once you have kids you may reconsider the B&C approach and not want to do something that could jeopardize your health and ability to see them grow up. That’s where I’m at. I’m just doing TRT+ for hopefully ever. If I can remain restrained lol.
So where you just taking Testosterone only? If so what were your Test levels before you started? I would start looking at cruising instead of just stopping and cycling you would not lose as much gains.
My test levels were in the high 200's before starting and I've been on test for 14 months, 2 cycles with a cruise in between. I should have wrote this better, when I said come off I did mean to go on a cruise. On the first cruise I did 150mg of test for 20 weeks or so, felt really good. Not enhanced, lost some size for sure, but good.
Well if you want to cruise after your blast do it especially if your test levels were only in the 200's that's pretty low. If you want to stay fertile to have kids in the future just use HCG during your cruise and blasts. It will keep the boys normal and all. Seems like 150mg of test is the sweet spot for you which is the same for me keeps me in the high normal range.
How much were you doing on your blast?
700 test 700 eq, if it was underdosed I cant say
And on this cycle I ran 500-600 test with 350 tren ace