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+ 2 6 weeks into my first cycle, all my lifts have gone up except my deadlift. Whats going on?

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Ive been training for around 3 years (2 very seriously), got my lifts to 365 Bench/ 405 squat/ 435 DL before deciding last month to start my first cycle. 6 weeks into a 500mg/week test cycle and my bench and squat have BLEW UP. I am having so much fun adding reps every week to those lifts. The problem is my deadlift hasnt budged. Has this ever happened to anyone else? I've heard of people increasing their max deadlift during a cycle when not even training it, so I'm wondering how I can be training it once a week and not seeing any results.

West78's picture

Stop using, belts, straps and gloves, if you are while you train and after a month of doing so your deadlift will go up a hundred pounds

Pxpxp's picture

Bro, that’s already a lot of weight. Sometimes the mind keeps our body from f-ing up ourselves. I would keep your current max and try for more reps, until your mind and body have the confidence to go up. Just cause you upped you testosterone, does not mean your going to lifting ass loads more. Be patient. It take only one time to mess up your body and all your PRs are down the drain.

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JJmarcone's picture

Rest wise I get around 7hours a night. I wish that could be 8 but I have a 3 months old daughter that makes that impossible right now.
As far as diet I'd prob be called a heretic by most of the people on this forum, but the majority of my calories come from protein and animal fat. Ive been drinking almost a gallon of whole milk a day for 1 year now. I don't believe LDL cholesterol are "purely bad" like the medical community stresses.

Bulkdaddy's picture

Just keep lifting bro… One day you’ll walk in there and be able to do 50lbs heavier and not even realize it. It will come just be patient.

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press1's picture

I have experienced this first hand also bud, though my deadlift still did increase pretty good but not as much as in comparison to my bench and squat. The theory behind it is that with the gear and newfound levels of protein synthesis you are able to gain considerable muscle on your limbs such as arms and legs compared to when you are natty. Then because your bench increases due to added arm strength your chest increases in size quite a bit too, shortening the range of motion. If you are also using wet compounds such as Dbol and Deca, even Test then your leverages improve due to added water/glycogen retention. Its all the same theory behind the big squat increase. My squat was crap before gear but then after 4 weeks on gear I could rep my natty max 6 times!!! Lol With deadlift however things can be the reverse as due to the added bodyweight you have put on it can throw your leverages out and make things like pulling the bar in close to your body more awkward and getting your hips down to the bar more difficult. With some guys however the increase in bodyweight goes in their favour as they use it to counterbalance the weight they are lifting. Deadlifts can just be a funny lift in general to master, I have a theory that you are either genetically made for it or you aren't. Look at the amount of skinny teenagers now that are pulling huge numbers purely because they are able to get into a virtually upright position even before they pull it off the floor. Be aware too that now you are benching heavier your back and CNS will be more fatigued afterwards for a few days - if you try to deadlift during this time without being fully recovered then you won't be able to lift as much. I never do well in deads if done straight after bench day.

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This is great info man, thanks. I feel a little better now that there is a potential reason that doesn't involve me not training it hard enough. I'm torn now, on one hand I want my deadlift to increase but on the other hand this cycle can be used in better ways if I focus more on my other lifts. Any thoughts?

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It ALL depends on what matters to you most mate, which lift makes you feel the best or which do you think is lagging and you feel the worst about? Just scanning over your lifts there I think you need to be concentrating on a 5 plate deadlift as that is lagging the most relative to the others. I can hit deads heavy twice a week when I want to BUT I can't peak my bench at the same time as my leg drive isn't as strong from back fatigue and also my rotator cuffs go sore from the deads which mean when pressing heavy I start losing speed or stick in the middle when its all about delts. Or do you really wanna hit a 4 plate bench? I've always found bench pretty easy to build tbh - just concentrate on making it heavier each session with your max singles and triples. No need for accessory work or anything like that, just build the lift each week.

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You hit the nail on the head. I hit a 3 plate bench last summer and ever since I've had the dream of 4 plates on my mind. It was a major contributing factor to me hopping on this first cycle. My deadlift has always sucked (admittedly I never trained it very seriously though). I was hoping to increase it too but I might just focus on bench and squat for the remainder of this cycle